Other What's ruining your life right now?

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  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    My web host, Tsohost, has absolutely gone down the pan since it was taken over. They had an alleged "DDoS attack" on the server I share, and suddenly SSH stopped working - port 22 was closed. Raised a ticket, "try port 2510."

    Port 2510 times out. I tell 'em this.

    "The logs say you're trying to authenticate with a private key the server doesn't have. Delete your keys to force password login."

    What? I'm getting a timeout, not an authentication error. Whatever, here's the output of me trying SSH set to force password authentication (timeout) and flaming telnetting to port 2510 (timeout). So, can you fix the timeout problem I'm having?

    "Here's a screenshot of Cpanel. You'll have to delete these SSH keys to switch back to password authentication.. Let me know if you need further assistance."

    Furrfu. Right, fine, log into Cpanel, delete the keys (for which I have the private key right here, 'cos I was authenticating with 'em a flamin' week ago and have changed nothing at my end), try to SSH again: OH LOOK A TIMEOUT I AM ABSOLUTELY AMAZED THAT DIDN'T FIX IT (especially when I know for a fact sshd is set to fall back to password authentication if you don't have a valid private key meaning that it couldn't possibly be a key problem.)

    Told him to escalate it to someone who understands how networking works. So far, silence, though the Twitter account has just asked me to try telnetting to the port - which, y'know, I already tried and told them about in the ticket. Hell, I told them about it in the tweet they bloody well replied to.

    I really need to get around to migrating to someone blessed with a modicum of Clue.

    EDIT:
    And I'm in. Because they've whitelisted my IP. Because, what do you know, IT WASN'T A FLAMIN' AUTHENTICATION PROBLEM. Gah!
     
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  2. legoman

    legoman breaker of things

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    I feel your pain, on that, our helpdesk is about as useful as a goat in a carpet factory.

    User "hello I cant print in office applications"

    Helpdesk fix, clear cache and cookies, repair java then assign to us because their fixes don't work

    Me, removes printer then deletes the Toshiba folder from the C:/users/Person folder, re adds printer which also adds the correct driver, fixed.
    Why is that a second line task!

    I get the impression the bulk of the help desks now just rely on some pre scripted list of supposed fixes or use prompt cards.
     
  3. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    So it was an authentication error :grin:
     
  4. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    I'll bite, because I'm utterly tee'd off with this whole damn week and Tsohost wasting my afternoon was just the icing on a poo-sandwich: no, it wasn't. Authentication happens after a connection has been made; blocking someone at the firewall is absolutely a hundred and ten percent nothing to do with authentication. It was also quite obviously what the problem was from the minute I said "timeout", once they'd checked (I assume they checked) that sshd was actually running.

    God only knows what logs he was looking at when he said I was using the wrong SSH key, because if I'm blocked at the firewall I ain't never making into auth.log.
     
  5. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    The script in front of him at a guess. I'm guessing after they had the DDoS they switched to whitelisting IPs which seems odd to do on the management side.
     
  6. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    They never had any flamin' DDoS, they're just shoving too many customers onto too few servers to increase their profit margins.
     
  7. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    ahhh, ye olde ISP approach.
     
  8. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Holy balls, it continues: "actually, you were not blocked." SO WHY DID WHITELISTING ME FIX IT, THEN?
     
  9. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Maybe it's time to switch provider?
     
  10. Gareth Halfacree

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    On my to-do list, but working 12 hour plus days seven days a week at the moment means I just don't have time to migrate the sites anywhere.
     
  11. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Understandable. Surely some enterprising host would do it for you? I mean, I know when one of the hosts we use at work migrates a domain to their platform they offer it.
     
  12. Gareth Halfacree

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    It's not the domains - they're hosted elsewhere. It's the sites themselves: I need to take a dump of the database, set up WordPress, import the dump, transfer the files, fix everything that's broken - it's non-trivial. I'll get around to it one of these days.
     
  13. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Yeah, I figured it wasn't domains - But I meant all the guff that's hosted. I don't know how many wordpress-based sites they've migrated for us/our customer.
     
  14. Gareth Halfacree

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    Hey, if somebody wants to do it for me, even better. Still got to find the somebody, though - and I'm only paying, what, £8 a month, so my budget ain't exactly getting anyone hot and bothered for my business.
     
  15. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    I'm [by 'I' i mean the website i wrangle for someone else] with TSOHost too gareth, i feel you pain... problem is thethe alternatives are as big a dumpster fire... or got swallowed up by GoDaddy... and **** GoDaddy...
     
  16. Weekly_Estimate

    Weekly_Estimate Gives credit where its due

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    Also using Tsohost here with issues, generally when i'm ready to launch or a website gets fairly popular i move it to digitalocean, could be an idea? it's not even expensive
     
  17. yuusou

    yuusou Multimodder

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    I just use leaseweb, spin up and configure my own machines.
     
  18. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    I don't mean to sound like a shill, but we use Swiftinter.net as one of our hosts. I can't say enough good things about their site hosting, their willingness to help, the speed of their DNS updates, and being able to get to them on the phone pretty easily. Unrelated, but their internet connections are just as well supported.

    They manage 'regular' site hosting and significantly more secure site hosting for us, and yeah. Can't fault them. Not sure they're as cheap as £8 p/m, though..
     
  19. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    PC on life support... again...
    Headache...
    Chavs from the housing estate out the back kicking of... again...
    It's still too ****ing hot...
    Feel like someon tried to kneecap me in my sleep...
     
  20. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Not ruining my life specifically [well it is because i'm having to listen to my mate rant about it.] but - systems that don't accept 'special' characters for names... and jobsworth rent-a-goons.

    Friend of mine booked tickets to a thing for himself and his gf...

    Her name - Sølvi
    ...only the booking system doesn't like the 'ø', so they typed in 'Solvi' instead...

    They then tern up at the thing, get asked for ID, and she's not allowed in by the jobsworth rent-a-goon in because the name on the ID 'doesn't match' the name on the ticket.
     
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