Yes they were, before the C2D came out. WHAT? Someone actually gives a damn about some world record OC performed using liquid helium? Gimme a break. In day-to-day use i5's give VERY nice clock speeds without using all the electricity in the world. 2x the performance? Yeah... Sure, feathers was in the wrong thread, but you just make yourself look like exactly the kind of blind fanboy that I just don't understand. AMD CPUs and platforms do have their strong points, but you just went so far over the top it's not even amusing.