Rant When will Brits TV program makers follow the Yanks?

Probably have stopped typing at that point.

 

OMG Spoiler alert.

I really enjoyed watching the last two Big Momma films, now I know number 3 is a body suit.
You sir have despoiled it for me.

I always knew Santa was someone to be feared, what have we been doing to our children all these years.

 

are you forgeting about all the biggest loser type shows which the UK has copied?

 

you are much more influenced by the people around you. My fiance is a size 4 but has trouble even buying clothes in a size 6. People encourage her to fatten up. When I lived in China I felt over weight and people would ask if I drink too much beer but in the UK I fit right in, in the US I look thin.

 

Glorification and encouragement are not one and the same. These shows encourage over-eating no more than a Breaking Bad encourages drug use, GTA and CoD encourage violence, the Sopranos encourages racketeering or Jackass encourages stupidity.

The people that confuse the two are what we call impressionable.

And if that is the most ridiculous comment you've ever read, you're not very well travelled for a 61 year old, or a 16 year old for that matter. There's a whole lot of internet out there, and I'd estimate around 95% of it is more ridiculous than that comment!

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Apparently so!

 

That's pretty well been the staple of the comic milieu since its inception. Sure, in the recent past there have been a few stand-out exceptions to this rule. Watchmen had its share of unattractive anti-heroes (and to be fair, it also had its share of lithe superheroes as well). Daredevil is a great show, and its casting seems right on. However, I would argue that shows like Daredevil and Watchmen are very different than Agents of Shield. That's not to say that Agents of Shield is a bad show; it's just a very different setting and premise. It's not going to feature many average humans doing realistic government desk work. Nor does it seem interested in following the 'gritty' tone of the superhero genre of late.

I will point out something that IamJudd touched on in his response regarding ParaNorman. Keep in mind that these shows are not supposed to be representative of real life. They are caricatures. The heroes will be bigger than life (and most likely attractive as well, because superheroes almost always are above average in every way). They personify our best qualities - it's what makes them super. By the same token, the villains will encompass everything that is the worst of us. Depending on the villain's character, that might be super charismatic (Michael Rosenbaum in Smallville) or super nasty (Peter Sarsgaard in Green Lantern).

I also find it interesting that while Kronos seems upset that television shows nothing but fat people glorifying overeating, you perceive an overabundance of fit, attractive people.

 

Thing is, I would say that I've only really enjoyed comic book related films quite recently. I'm only 22, not long ago I'd have been part of the 12 year old kid wave all wanting to watch Spiderman at the cinema, but even then I think I had similar gripes. Things just didn't feel right, mostly the scripting if you ask me though.

A lot of the current superhero films definitely are more gritty, but not all of them. I mean The Avengers and sequel aren't gritty (especially when compared to say The Dark Knight), nor was Guardians of the Galaxy. There are lots of OTT scenes, silly one-liners etc. but the balance is right, but it's also present in the casting. Hell, the Avengers as a group are a very attractive bunch, but it just works, I don't think it does for Agents of Shield. Besides, they're not all superheroes either in AoS, there just happen to be quite a few. When they decide to case heroes as attractive and a villain as not so, it sort of spoils potential surprises IMO. Mix things up and keep them guessing is my preference.

Again I'm not asking for some pure representation of reality either, I'm asking for clever casting that doesn't just settle on "they look nice and can act somewhat". Thor's (the first one, not so much the second) a good example of getting it right actually. The script was pretty meh, but I did think the actors were right for the roles provided (looking beyond just Thor and Loki here).

Eh, it's a hard thing to distil into words without sounding like I have some sort of social justice agenda, which is definitely not the case.

To address your final point, my issue is not based off TV in general. I don't watch much TV anymore, so my sample size is restricted to the shows I explicitly decide to watch, which will always be heavily skewed. If anything, I'm complaining about the casting in some of the shows that I've decided to pick up or keep up with. That'd be why my observations are near opposite to the ones kronos is making.

 

I don't think anyone is naive enough to think they're going to pull a fit bird because they're a fat **** like Homer Simpson.