hi guys, well as everyone is aware haswell has been released and i think its about time i upgraded. However while the CPU is an easy choice 4670K im not sure which mobo to pick ive looked at the ASUS Z87 pro and the ASrock Extreme 6 both have good reviews but not bit-tech reviews ! also not sure on which cooler to opt for - i wont be pushing the chip to its limits but a healthy 4.4Ghz-4.6Ghz would be nice. other kit i have is; Fractal R3 case with 2x 120mm front fans 1x 120mm back and 1x 140mm top. Corsair 650W PSU std DVD re-writer 1TB samsung F3 256GB samsung 830
The main thing to know really is what's your budget for both? The answers will vary a lot depending on that!
Currently overclocking Haswell to 4.5 or above needs some hefty cooling. Closed Loop H100i got the chip up to 90c and that was a 4770K. The Gigabyte OC is looking at being a great board. But at a price.
Since Bit-Tech have posted this: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/06/06/haswell-heat/1 You are lucky to get 4.5 according to this ^^
id say £200 or less on a mobo. Im not massively going to push this chip but it would be interesting reading an article with a sandy vs ivy vs haswell at there max air cooler overclocks
Fair enough - I've literally just bought (well it arrived today) an Asus Sabertooth Z87 and it's a fantastic piece of kit. Well made and solid as hell with the backplate and thermal armour installed. Properly looks the business too & has a 5 year warranty (compared to 3 years with every other board pretty much). I've not clocked the chip yet but Prime 95 on stock clocks with a H100i gives temps less than about 55° (and my room is bloody warm this evening...)
but are intel selling good ones to the oems, who don't normally pre-overclock machines, and saving the better ones for retail, who are more likely to overclock.
I like Asus's boards this round over the others, but some of that is the new color scheme ^^. On a slightly off-topic note, are LGA 1155 coolers fitting LGA 1150 without new brackets?
so what makes the sabertooth worth £200 compared to say the MSI board at around £170 or the Asus pro @ £160 ? Also any suggestions on coolers ? i think max £50 unless its worth stepping up. H100 is lovely but its £95 !!
Even worse, The Gryphon is the smaller Sabertooth, and it cost's 1/3rd less! (~£130) Why so much? The ASUS Z87 Gryphon (MATX) £130 or the the ASUS Z87M-PLUS (µATX) £105 or the ASUS Z87-A (ATX) £120
I really like the Z87 PLUS. It's a good balance of price and features in my book. As for coolers... Haswell's running hot, so probably something on a closed loop in the $60 range would be ideal if you want to do some overclocking.
i think the Asus Z87 gryphon will be enough for me i dont need the extra slots and features. As long as it can overclock decently thats enough for me. Now on to coolers - dont really want to sink more than £50 on a CPU cooler but id be looking for 4.2Ghz+ overclock so need something that can handle that. I was looking at the following SilverStone Argon AR01 with maybe an extra fan although cant find a review - £25+£10 Noctua NH-D14 - £65 bit overbudget but looks a great cooler cant have the thermalright archon as its too big 170mm !!! ive got a fractal R3 which support ~165mm
Why do you guys even think about better coolers, when it is clear the issue is bellow the IHS, so there is only a very small difference between a 20 euro tower cooler and a water cooling setup ?
