Windows Why don't more people use Opera?

Hmmm, interesting comments. It would certainly seem that there's no good reason to pick FF over Opera unless you use a particular extension (I never used any when i was using FF) and I would sum up the arguments as follows.

IE Pros:
Er...
A lot of stuff is written for it. So most sites work.

IE Cons:
Doesn't render 'properly'
No tabs.
Most vunerable.
Just no features whatsoever.

Firefox Pros:
Renders 'properly'.
Tabbed browsing.
Extensions.
Barebones default installation.

Firefox Cons:
Stubborn lack of support for extensions to standards, i.e. doesn't support coloured scroll bars.
Slow at rendering (and it really is noticable so don't try and argue against it).
Memory hog (arguably just inherent with tabbed browsing but it does seem to cause some instability issues).
Limited functionality without extensions.

Opera Pros:
Renders 'properly'
Supports some extensions to standards, i.e. coloured scroll bars.
Tabbed browsing.
Most functionality for default installation. (tab trash, mouse gestures (not that i use them), etc.)
Fastest rendering.

Opera Cons:
Less customisable than FF.
Default extras may not be wanted.

As I say, all in all, it comes down to whether you use extensions. If you don't, then I'd definetly recommend Opera, if you do, well then there's only one choice.

So there you have it.

P.S. Sorry if I seem patronising or if you all feel you've heard it all before but I really was blown away by the difference moving from FF to Opera and I thought it should be known.

 

don't worry ur only just selling the idea of Opera to me...maybe time to shoot the fox now

 

Same here... I tried opera... It has his pro's, but also it's con's. I'm going to give it a try (if anyone has a way of importing bookmarks from FF to Opera, plz share me ) The first thing that I don't quite get, but annoys me is ther personal bar, especially the location of it... And the gestures, on a laptop (while using the touchpad) just don't work... But I'm giving it a fair and openminded try, because the loading bars allready stole my heart

 

You export using the bookmarks manager in FF. Then you import by going to file > Import and Export > Import mozilla and firefox bookmarks.

Having had a bit more time with the browser I've found a few more niggles that could yet put me off:

1. There's no bookmark toolbar. Although i only had three links on mine in FF they were very often visited.
2. Interface has a few quirks like the arrow not changing to a cursor when you mouseover text (just seems an odd ommision).
3. Doesn't support StumbleUpon.

 

Opera fan here, mainly because of the tabbing, prefer it to the tabbing over firefox

@ Glider, you can remove most of the bars, right click on the address bar and select customise and then deselect the bars you don't want
and to import bookmarks go to Bookmarks - Manage Bookmarks - File - Import Netscape/Firefox bookmarks

@Meanmotion
you can drag the current page your on to the side of the adrress bar, eg for bit-tech i would drag the small bit-tech logo in my address bar to the right of the address bar and let go of the mouse button

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see that little bit-tech logo on the right of the address bar

 

I liked Opera when it worked on my comp, but firefox is ok. On my other slower comp Opera got pics in proj logs faster and scrolled them faster and i liked the trash can. Is there a trash extension like opera has built in because that would just make FF go for me. Also meanmotion you can import them from opera, it has a tool built in.

 

what is the trash can exactly? i assume it lets you re-open closed tabs?
tab mix plus does that, i have it set to middle click on the tab bar to undo last closed tab

 

Yes it keeps a list of the last 20 tabs you had open and has a little trash can icon to the far right of the address bar that when you click it, it shows that list and you choose the one you want.

 

RTT- that link will give me nightmares. . . So much flashing junk!

I msyelf like Firefox better than Opera for one reason- it is OpenSource. Not only do I know it is free and always will be free, but there is no "super special premium edition, with features you really want but will probbably never use for only $100". Opera may not have such yet, but not being open source, I don't believe it will remain as free as Firefox is.

The main reason I use Firefox is because it is not IE. I find that Firefox renders pages faster than IE. IE sits and waits forever as it's downloading the material, even accesing google.com (and not personalize) with IE takes longer than with Firefox for some stupid reason. I find clearing my personal information in IE is far, far better than in IE. . . Really, even after deleting all temp files through IE leaves some trash behind, even if everything is manually deleted you still have to find a way to kill the damn index.dat.

Anyways, this is not an IE bashing thread. But simply put, I like Firefox because I hate IE. I won't use Opera because I'd rather support Open Source software, Firefox meets my needs and has never crashed. Quite honestly, I've never been worried about the amound of RAM IE uses, sure it takes a bit but I have 1GB for playing games, I might as well use it when not gaming too. Firefox did run great when I only had 256MB. . .

L J

 

my eyes! make it stop, make it stop!

 

firefox+plugins

 

Like I said, I gave opera a try... I like some stuff, but absolutely hate some other... And it might be customisable, but I don't get the mouse gestures and keyboard shortcut syntax stuff. Maybe someone can enlight me on this (PM to keep the thread clean)

Right now it is FF for me, it does what I want, how I want it (like <ctrl> + click to open in a new tab), but if I get Opera some more, I might migrate... Because I do like it (a bit)

 

middlr click to open a tab and doubleclick to close it is nice.

 

ah right thought so, yea tab mix plus can do this personally i dont have the list option turned on i just middle click lots of times to get the one i want lol

 

FF for me, but I do love Opera's transfer (download) manager.

 

fAt default opera is better.

But firefox has extensions even for particular games now, and so many massively useful extensions like adblock that i simply couldnt live with out.

fasterfox extension seems to fix the mildley slower rendering, so the only con left is the memory leak...this is a known problem and it shouldnt be long before it gets fixed by sombody.

 

I dont have that problem...... I dispise myspace


also subjective. I just like the feel of Firefox (yes I have used both)


EDIT:
OWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

that somethingawfull link made my eyes water and..... AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its horrifying, OUCH! That realy did hurt, couldn't read have of it either. not to mention the absurd ammount of (HTML *shudder*) tags that got left unrendered

 

How do you get the icon in tab mix plus to be like opera?