Cases Will it run cool with or without a case?

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  1. [KNIGHT]

    [KNIGHT] What's a Dremel?

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    I have a PC case but i removed my stuff from it and setup my computer on a table. I thought that would cool the computer than when it is inside a case. Am i right?

    As i said earlier i have everything setup on a table. And i kept a table fan to cool it.

    And speaking about the case it is not branded. ATX casing. has 4 CD/DVD drive bays. has 2 places to fix fans on the side of the case (one aimed at the CPU & the other at the graphic card. Also it has another place to fix a fan at the back.

    My question is will it run cooler inside a case or on a table?
    I have a Q6600 which im planning to Overclock. Im intending to use air cooling only. And i dont want to buy new cases too.

    And im folding too. So my CPU runs at 100% which heats it a lot.
     
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  2. bigsharn

    bigsharn Officially demotivated

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    Sorry man but you really do need a decent case, especially if overclocking and folding... Antec 200's cheap and should cool the computer nicely...hell, any 2nd hand rackmount from an old business with a couple of holes for 120mm fans will do it better than the tabletop setup, you've also got to bear in mind that dust and water (the humidity) can and will destroy your motherboard, so a case would be the best way to go
     
  3. [KNIGHT]

    [KNIGHT] What's a Dremel?

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    I thought when its a tabletop setup it gets exposed to more air and it will be cooled batter. Am i right?

    And as u said if im gonna use a case is my case that i described ok? i cant buy a new case. And if im using my case i will mod it a bit and add 2 fans infront to suck air into the case. Is it good?
     
  4. Slizza

    Slizza beautiful to demons

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    The answer was given pretty clear.
    No you are not right...
    Add extra fans too your case where possible and keep it like so.
    This will give far better airflow over the components than just sitting it on a table.
    The components don't need vast areas of air, they need airflow.
     
  5. D-Cyph3r

    D-Cyph3r Gay for Yunosuke

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    It depends of what components were talking about. Anything with a normal HSF (CPU, GPU) will be cooler in an open air environment, passively cooled components such as the motherboard VRM's and chipsets and HDD's will generally benefit more from being in a case with directed airflow.


    EDIT: Though personally the risk of damage is the main concern when running an open system.
     
  6. Horizon

    Horizon Dremel Worthy

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    You can run it fine in open air but you do need a fan to move air over the components that rely on the case fans for cooling.

    edit: cyph3r beat me - there are dozens of open air cases on the market right now like the Antec Skeleton, Danger Den Torture Rack, HSPC tech station to name a few, an sealed case is necessary.
     
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  7. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    I'll want a case, trust me

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  8. Horizon

    Horizon Dremel Worthy

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    Thats 1 cheap case LOL. Awesome.
     
  10. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    I wish I would have checked temp with the "case" but I didn't
     
  11. Gareth24

    Gareth24 Folding = vdubs

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    Awesome case :thumb:
     
  12. flame696

    flame696 Terminating People Since 1980....

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    I want that case to replace my antec 1200 ive been looking for something that would carry the baton long after the antec 1200 goes.....:D:D:thumb::thumb::eeek::eeek:
     
  13. [KNIGHT]

    [KNIGHT] What's a Dremel?

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    since different people have different opinions i did a test my self.

    Q6600 2.4GHZ (stock speed)
    2GB DDR3 RAM 1333Mhz
    HIS 4650 512MB
    250GB SATA HDD
    ASUS DVD writer

    *All the temp readings in these tests are in celcius.

    These tests were done in a room without an AC. the room temp is usually between 25-30

    1. First i kept everything on a table(tabletop setup) and kept a table fan running at full speed (i kept this table fan because many of u said that some parts need moving air)intel stock cooler for the CPU. zalman isilence heatsink for the GPU. The computer was tested in idle state and full load state for 15min each. I used HW monitor to check temps.

    idle test
    core temps
    Core 1= min- 39 , max- 48
    Core 2= min- 39 , max- 48
    Core 3= min- 34 , max- 46
    Core 4= min - 36 , max - 47

    GPU temps
    min - 35 , max- 38


    100% load test (prime95 small FFTs)
    core temps
    core 1= max - 72
    core 2= max - 72
    core 3=max - 66
    core 4=max- 68

    GPU temps
    min -35 , max-39


    2. Then i assembled everything in my case. Its an ATX case. Had the stock CPU cooler. fixed a fan on top of the zalman cooler for the GPU. 2 intake fans at the front. 1 exhaust fan at the back. The computer was tested in idle state and full load state for 15min each.

    idle state
    core temps
    core 1= min- 45 , max- 51
    core 2= min- 45 , max- 51
    core 3= min- 39 , max- 47
    core 4= min- 42 ,max- 48

    GPU temp
    min -38 , max -40


    100% load test (prime 95 small FFts)
    core temps
    core 1= max- 74
    core 2= max- 73
    core 3= max- 68
    core 4=max - 70

    GPU temps
    min - 38 , max- 43


    So during these test i found that when the computer is inside the case the temps are higher than when its on a table.

    what do u think now?
     
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  14. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    You need protection from schrodinger's cat (dead or alive it's a problem), anyone that breathes, stampeding elephants, old people, cancer, water, dead fish, dust, falling trees, hitler, burning houses, a baseball gone astray, zombie attack, atomic denotations, Reese witherspoon, raw meat, live game birds, alien (and of course predator), chris hansen from Dateline NBC, paper cuts, random gun fire, women, fat people, anal leakage, saggy breast, tennis balls, baboons, gay porn, rabid raccoons, the milkman, your mother in-law, Steve jobs, the WNBA, witches, old people, people who drive priuses, anyone with a mustache, bald women, gypsy, full blooded Germans, door knobs, stormtroopers, clamidia, domesticated tigers, anyone named sam, lamps, fat people, any product the is manufactured in a plant contain nuts, a light breeze on a fresh summer day, stripper sweat, people from Jersey, the homeless, and the Soylent Corporation


    Just buy a case, or one day syphilis will make your computer stop working :eyebrow:
     
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  15. PureSilver

    PureSilver E-tailer Tailor

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    Your tests are lying to you. They only show the temperatures provided by sensors in the CPU and GPU, both of which have their own fans. In an open-air environment (caseless), those will cool better because the fans can pull in more air than they can in a closed environment like a case, or in The_Beast's case, a tomato box.

    However, your passively-cooled (fanless) components (PWMs, MOSFETs etc) rely on directed airflow to cool down. In an open-air environment, they don't get that airflow unless there's a steady breeze, (although you mentioned a table fan) and can overheat. The case, however, provides directed airflow because of the wind-tunnel design and fans, which will cool the other components.

    So, if you can live with your table fan being on all the time to cool the other components, then leaving it on a table is fine. If you can't, you risk allowing local heatspots on the motherboard to overheat and damage it.

    Put it in a case.
     

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