Build Advice Will this do me?!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by ozgoz, 15 Aug 2012.

  1. ozgoz

    ozgoz What's a Dremel?

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    Hi Chaps,

    I bought my last machine April 2007 (dual core 2.3, 4gb ram, gtx 520) and it lasted me well over the years and I played some right little beauts on it until the end ha ha. Half Life 2 series, Crysis 2 etc etc .. good times!

    Anyway it's really creaking now and even started BSOD'ing me so I'm looking to get something else to last me another good 5 years if possible. Don't want to spend any more than a grand. I already have a decent monitor and headphones (prefer to speakers) plus all the usual extra's.

    My old nemisis in the past with machines has been cooling - ugh, always suffered with over heating.

    What do you think about this? They want £986 off me for it. I think I want an i7 qud core cpu, a GTX 670 and 16gb RAM (or am I better off getting 8GB of quality RAM for now???).

    Case: CoolerMaster Elite 310 Mid Tower Gaming Case with see-thru side panel
    Freebies: None
    Lights & Illumination: NONE
    Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default Case Fan
    Cyberpower Noise Reduction Technology: None
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-3770 Quad Core 3.40 GHz 8MB Cache LGA1155 + HD Graphics [+192]
    Freebies: None
    Overclocking Service: No Overclocking
    Overclock Monitoring and Media Server Station or Overclocking Media Server Station: NONE
    Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling system w/ 120mm Radiator (Asetek CPU Water Cooling ***Overclockable XXX***)
    Coolant for Cyberpower Advance WaterCooling Kits: NONE
    Motherboard: Asus P8H61-MX Intel H61 chipset Micro ATX Mainboard w/ 2 RAM slots, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, SATA-II, 1xGen2 PCIe, 1xPCIe , 1 x PCI (B3 Stepping)
    Intel Smart Response Technology for Z68 & Z77: None
    Internal USB/SATA Expansion Module: NONE
    Memory: 16GB(4x4GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz Dual Channel Memory [+76] (Kingston Value Select)
    Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+250] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    Freebies: None
    Dongles: NONE
    Video Card 2: None, or On-Board Integrated Graphics
    Video Card 3: None, or On-Board Integrated Graphics
    Power Supply Upgrade: 500 Watts Power Supplies [+10] (CyberPower 500W Gaming Power Supply (No Overclocking recommended))
    Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache HDD (1TB (500GBx2) Raid 0 Extreme Performance [+45])
    Data Hard Drive: NONE
    Hard Drive Cooler: None
    External Hard Drive (USB 3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
    USB Flash Drive: None
    Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE. (BLACK Colour)
    Optical Drive 2: NONE
    Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    3D Vision Glasses: NONE
    LCD Monitor: NONE
    2nd Monitor: NONE
    3rd Monitor: NONE
    Speakers: NONE
    Headset: None

    All opinions welcome - I am no expert on this, just a keen reader.

    cheers
    olly :thumb:
    Gaming Gear: None
    Network: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT -- As standard on all PCs
    Keyboard: NONE
    Mouse: NONE
    Mouse Pad: None
    Extra Thermal Display: NONE
    Wireless 802.11N Network Card: NONE
    External Wireless Network Adapter: NONE
    Wireless 802.11B/G/N Access Point: None
    Bluetooth: None
    Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
    Video Camera: None
    Cables: None
    Power Surge Protection: None
    IEEE 1394 Card: NONE
    USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    Ultra Care Option: None
    Operating System: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY(NO OVERCLOCKING AVALIABLE)
    Media Center Remote & TV Tuner: None
     
  2. Parge

    Parge the worst Super Moderator

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    I'll just get this out of the way right away..... have you ever thought about building your own?
     
  3. BennieboyUK

    BennieboyUK CPC Folder of the Month Sep 2011

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    +1 do it.
     
  4. [PUNK] crompers

    [PUNK] crompers Dremedial

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    +1 its pretty easy to be honest
     
  5. mm vr

    mm vr The cheesecake is a lie

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    Or fixing your old computer? It's probably just overheating because it's full of dust.
     
  6. Xahl

    Xahl Your mum's a Dremel

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    decent 8gb ram is enough tbh
     
  7. Xahl

    Xahl Your mum's a Dremel

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    ssd?
     
  8. aramil

    aramil One does not simply upgrade Forums

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    Yeah it is easier than we make it look. :eek:

    Sent on my CM10 JB powered i9100 by TapaTalk 2
     
  9. freeclout

    freeclout What's a Dremel?

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    You really should consider building yourself. After a few weeks of reading up on this forum I reckon I put together a decent pc. Very happy with it and I know if anything goes wrong I can prob sort it out myself. Buy from scan with their insurance if your first build, will help give you the confidence to put it together.
     
  10. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Right, 1K budget. Using Scan, others can amend below in replies, this is just to start you off:

    LN42848
    Intel Core i5 3570K,1155, Ivy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 5 GT/s DMI, 650MHz GPU, 6MB Smart Cache, 34x Ratio, 77W, OEM
    £144.17 £173.00

    The K series is what you want.

    LN44304
    Asus P8Z77-M PRO, Intel Z77, S 1155, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, PCIe 3.0 (x16), D-Sub (VGA)/ DVI-D/ HDMI, Micro ATX
    £90.77 £108.92

    (-Pro has better VRMs and the mATX is cheaper than ATX by almost 15 quid. Use AutoTuning in TurboV/BIOS if you are not confident with OCing. This should get you ~4.2GHz with just a click of a button)

    LN39754
    8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 Vengeance Jet Black LP, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC, CAS 9-9-9-24, XMP, 1.5V
    £24.99 £29.99

    8GB is enough.

    LN42667
    Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Mid Tower Gaming Performance Case with USB 3.0, w/o PSU
    £49.30 £59.16

    300R has plenty of fan upgrade options. Other choices are the Fractal Design and Lian Li A05 (I have, it's very nice if you like Aluminum!) for around 65 quid.

    LN39099
    128GB Crucial RealSSD M4, 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s SSD, MLC-Flash, Read 500Mb/s, Write 175Mb/s *New Version*
    £71.12 £85.34

    Quality SATA 6Gbps SSD at a superb price. 128GB is enough for Windows + software.

    LN35239
    2TB Samsung HD204UI/ST2000DL004 SATA 3Gbs SATA II 5400rpm - End Of Life
    £63.20 £75.84

    It's EOL but still 2TB for this price is good. DON'T be bothered about SATA 6Gbps/III HDDs - they aren't worth the premium because they don't even fill the SATA 3Gbps/II bandwidth.

    LN41326
    Sony AD-5280S-0B 24x DVD±R, 12xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 SATA, Black, OEM
    £10.83 £13.00

    Bog standard DVDRW drive, if you need one.

    LN42541
    Arctic Cooling Freezer i30 CPU DT 4 Heat Pipe Cooler with 120mm Silent Fan for Intel Socket LGA 2011/1155/1156
    £24.30 £29.16

    The i30 is pretty good and cheaper than liquid coolers.

    LN39889
    520W Antec Neo Eco Modular PSU 82%Eff', 80 PLUS Bronze, SLI/CrossFire, EPS 12V, Quiet Fan, ATX, PSU *Scan Exclusive
    £41.52 £49.82

    The Neo Eco is a decent PSU. Not that new with 82% but cheaper than others. 520W is enough for a single GPU.

    Net Total £520.20
    Carriage £8.49
    VAT £105.73
    Total£634.42

    GPU - Wait 3 days ;) prepare for +300 on that.
     
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  11. malbluff

    malbluff What's a Dremel?

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    If you are planning to use specific software, that makes use of 8 threads, and a lot of RAM, like HD video editing using Adobe CS6, then there is some point to i7 and 16GB of RAM. Otherwise, pointless. If you are going to use Ivybridge, and a GTX670 (I would want to know make and exact model), at least put them on a decent z77 motherboard.
    That's a really nice build, that Bindibadgi's put together. If you particularly want liquid cooling, you could substitute that, for slightly more money.
    The new GTX660ti is released, tomorrow. By all accounts, that is likely to be close to 670 performance, and you could save a few quid.
     
  12. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Thank you, Malbluff :D

    That's why I said wait 2-3 days to see what happens to GPU prices and read reviews about the best price : performance ;) Compare 660, 670, 7870, 7950B.

    An i7-3770K will take you well over a grand :( but I agree worth it if you're doing serious work. A 16GB upgrade can be had for not much more though, which might be worth it for a 3-4 year investment. Same with a nice case - buy something you really like to look at, that works well, and it's a great investment that'll last upgrades.
     
  13. ozgoz

    ozgoz What's a Dremel?

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    thanks guys and especially bindibadgi, i am going to do some serious reading up and go from there.

    i've started to research already, and already i've got that feeling that by getting someone else to build it, it's going to make me less of a man haha.

    most confusing bit to me looks like where to put all the wires after you put the psu in, connecting it all up. that and say getting a motheboard that doesn't fit the case or cpu.
     
  14. ozgoz

    ozgoz What's a Dremel?

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    hi,

    i've done some reading and research and come up with this, and i'm going to have a crack at making it myself.

    i've not bought anything yet so can change anything.. from my old machine i am only brining a monitor, keyboard & mouse, headphones and a dvd-rw drive!


    £56.98 Coolermaster Storm Scout Gaming Mid Tower Black Case w/o PSU Refresh Version

    £189.17 Intel Core i7 2700K, S 1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core 3.5GHz, 8MB Cache, HD 3000 IGP 850MHz, 95W, Retail

    £13.25 Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro v2 S775/1155/1156/1366/AM3/AM2+/AM2/939 Up to 130 Watts

    £31.80 8GB (2x4GB) Hynix DDRIII PC3-10600 (1333mhz) 240 pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered CL9

    £49.89 1TB Seagate ST31000524AS Barracuda 7200.12, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.5ms, NCQ

    £249.67 2GB EVGA GTX 670, 28nm, PCIe 3.0 (x16), 6008MHz GDDR5, GPU 915MHz, Boost 980MHz, Cores 1344, 2x DL DVI, DP, HDMI

    £65.77 Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H, Intel Z77, S 1155, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, PCIe 3.0, D-Sub/ DVI-D/ HDMI, ATX

    £54.70 700W Silverstone Tech. Strider SST-ST70F-ES, 80% Eff', 80 PLUS, SLI/CrossFire, EPS 12V, Quiet Fan, ATX v2.3, PSU



    Net Total

    Carriage

    VAT

    £711.23

    £8.49

    £143.94

    Total
    £863.66

    any criticisms welcome.


    thanks.
     
  15. malbluff

    malbluff What's a Dremel?

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    Personally, I would have said, if you are having a GXT670, on a z77 board, and you want an i7 CPU, go with the i7-3770K. Depending where you are buying, virtually the same money, and better, all round. If you want to stick with Sandybridge processor, there's little benefit to having z77 board, and the i7-2600K is better value than the 2700.
     

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