Windows Win 10 auto update (can't disable)

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  1. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Just seen that you can't disable auto update.

    **** this... I'm not having MS install whatever they want on my PC without being able to decide whether I want it.

    Going back to Win8.1 for as long as I can, or until they reverse that decision... or until I'm forced to buy a Mac due to having an OS that's too old..

    I'm not being dictated to. I wouldn't mind if it was merely security updates, but I'm not having it dump whatever crap driver on there it wasn't (Like it did for my GPU.. a driver only version that had no GForce experience or shadowplay) or any other piece of software they decide I MUST have.

    **** off Mocrosoft. That's just too much... sorry. I can't believe you're all not in collective apoplexy over this. You have no control over what update puts on your machine. Please tell me I'm wrong about this... please.
     
  2. phuzz

    phuzz This is a title

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    This page says you can change it with a bit of fiddling.
    (Second result on google mate)
     
  3. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I'll have a read later. I hope so, as the thought of having crap like a "Bing Toolbar" pushed, and installed without me having any say in the matter really, really is time I bought a Mac.. as much as I hate them.
     
  4. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Yeeaaah cos apple never pull the 'we know best' card on their users... nooooo /sly apple dig

    its not ideal, but it's result of the whole rolling distro/'software as a service' and an effort to ensure most of the userbase is relatively up to date... combined with the techno-numpties who just didn't update their PCs... so school headmaster style they took the option away from [almost] everyone because a sizable group couldn't be trusted

    as for the 'MS can install what they like when they like'... like they couldn't/haven't before? and it's not like the automatic updates wasn't well publicised before hand...
     
  5. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    You're not wrong, at least I don't think you are. :)
    Personally I'm past the point of caring what Microsoft does, be it forced updates, setting defaults to spying on its customers, using customers upload bandwidth to help them distribute updates, or anything else they decide to do.

    IMHO The writings been on the wall for a long time as to the direction Microsoft wants to take Windows and that's not a direction I want to go in, some people may like or even share the vision Microsoft has for the future of the Personal (Microsoft) Computer and that's fine, but for me I won't be using a Microsoft OS past 2020.

    Isn't ^^This^^ just for the technical preview, I thought in the final build it only allows it to be disabled either by stopping the Windows update service or via group policy but with just an on or off settings.
     
  6. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Fair comment.

    Why the hell can't they just have auto update for security and essential patching only? Why must I install everything they push? Seems I'll spend a lot of time un-installing crap on Windows 10.
     
  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Well from what i've seen [whether it's actually true/continues to be the case is another matter], WU is for security/driver updates, 'optional' [whether they're optional or not, such as the photos/music/video apps] components seem to be pushed/updated through the app store...
     
  8. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I'm back on 8.1 now. Will watch what happens and decide later. There's nothing Win10 has that I actually need, and 8.1 with Start 8 installed rocks for me.
     
  9. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    From what I've read elsewhere, they can now auto-push CONFIGURATION changes, reverting decisions you've made to stop them tracking you, etc.
     
  10. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    It's also to be used for feature changes, although what those changes are has left people scratching their heads
     
  11. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Rotary Cat.

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    Thanks for the link Phuzz.
     
  12. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    It doesn't apply to the released version.
     
  13. Concrete-Coffin

    Concrete-Coffin Minimodder

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  14. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Only problem with the Microsoft tool is that you have to install the update first before you can hide & uninstall it, although there's rumors going around that Microsoft maybe planning to change forcing updates on users in September.
     
  15. Concrete-Coffin

    Concrete-Coffin Minimodder

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    im sure you dont have to install updates if you go to advanced settings pic below it will check to see if theres updates but let you install them at a later date so when you run the tool it can see the updates and you hide them so no need to install them if this is wrong then hopfully some 1 with a bit more know how than me can shed some light on this Defer upgrades in Windows 10
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-10/defer-upgrades-in-windows-10
    Applies to Windows 10

    Some Windows 10 editions let you defer upgrades to your PC. When you defer upgrades, new Windows features won’t be downloaded or installed for several months. Deferring upgrades doesn’t affect security updates. Note that deferring upgrades will prevent you from getting the latest Windows features as soon as they’re available.


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  16. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    That doesn't apply to Home edition, deferred updates just mean you can postpone feature updates for I believe 3 months but not security updates, but seeing as Microsoft have been rolling both security and feature updates into a single patch I'm not sure how much the distinction between security and feature updates matters.

    In the end the only edition of Windows 10 that can put off updates for any length of time is the Enterprise edition and even then they have to make a choice if a "security" update is worth installing without knowing what "feature" updates it contains as Microsoft isn't informing people what feature changes a security update contains.

    This article does an OK job of explaining the different servicing branches.
     
  17. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    I can see this DEFINITELY causing trouble for some, as the 3D software I use for work (Solidworks) requires using only "certified" GPU drivers.
    If MS forces the latest & greatest onto a work machine, the software may no longer work correctly.

    This is why work will be staying on W7 for the foreseeable
     
  18. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    YOu see, this is why I'm not installing 10.

    Just installed the very latest drivers from NVidia, and update has downloaded this...

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    The wrong drivers, for the wrong card, despite me being bang up today already.

    Win 10 would have just installed this and tough ****.
     
  19. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    That's partly because you're running wildly mis-matched cards... your 430 and 970 rely on [technically] different drivers [differing levels of WDDM support iirc], however windows can't/won't have both installed at the same time so the 4xx series [WDDM 1.2] driver breaks the 9xx series [WDDM 1.3] driver and vice versa, so windows constantly belives one is lacking a working/up to date driver and tries to update accordingly.
     
  20. 13eightyfour

    13eightyfour Formerly Titanium Angel

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    I just disabled updates in services, I'll manually change it back if anything that I feel is really important needs updating.
     

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