Windows Windows 7 : Your hopes and dreams?

agreed, Vistas trouble at launch was down to 3rd party drivers, nvidia in particular, which I believe caused 18% of crashes etc and since SP1 gets Vista gaming performance to same/better then XP there's no reason to stick with the XP and now Vista is a good gaming platform.

 

my point exactly, legacy stuff is holding windows back and causing it to die a slow death, vista took sooo long because of troubles with legacy apps on the new core thats why the used windows2003 core, yes a revamped version but 2003 none the less not a new fresh kernal

they need to start afresh with brand new scalable kernal designed to todays and future needs which is modular by design, use an aplication layer or virtual machine for legacy software

with the challenges of OSX and Linux with there flexibility moving ahead Windows needs a refresh, HP is even considering doing there own Linux based OS, MS is in trouble as have been focusing on google leaving there stable revenue stream (Windows and Office) open to attack

But go ahead and create your temp directory, if M$ gets there act together in Windows7 you won't have to

 

everything off same core kernal with diff GUI/Application suite running off top of it
ie macosx or windows or any linux distro can run any app aside from say microsoft can keep there hands on directx so if you wanna hit a directx game you'd either have to use the windows front end or say pay MS$ and get Directx isntalled on your MACosx front end lol dreams, never happen but would be awesome to have 1 unified platform, besides, the money in future will be service based

 

-one version of Windows7, two at the most being home and office (both must be able to join a domain)
-Native 64Bit
-DONT have IE7 or WMP integrated into OS, have them as separate apps, just like 3rd party apps would be
-ONE location for handling what services/programs etc kick off on boot(same for system tray apps)
-WINFS file system, no more drive letters/partitions etc etc, FAT based on Database

 

Yeah I heard about it. Its suppositly (sp?) that the newer kernels are also modular and update in pieces and not all together. My xubuntu box at home only has to restart for MAJOR updates which are quite rare nowadays.

 

Are you kidding me... this has nothing to do with Microsoft. it's the drivers. And since end 2007 about, there is no game speed difference.

 

Huh, but didn't Windows Update acquire the drivers for me?

 

Nope, you have to do those yourself.

 

Note :: you can install 99% of windows updates without needing a reboot if you do it right. If you do it auto it asks for a reboot due to amendments being added to the reg (only read at boot) -- for a home PC who cares if it needs a reboot though - you're not running critical apps or anything

 

I've read this entire thread, musing silently to myself, and then I stumbled upon the sentence claiming Win7 will get rid of the drive letters as well as individual drives in OS. At that point I stopped reading, and felt a strong urge to find and violently mutilate an MS programmer.

 

lol i'm sure winfs will still allow partitions so other os's may be installed, but do go ahead and mutilate a few M$ department heads

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/141821.asp (Bill Gates internal email concerning useability)
http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html (M$ coder telling how dev enviroment is handled...ie poorly)

 

Yeah, that email says quite a lot about MS. But honestly it makes me feel good about Bill Gates - he's not one of those (former, now) CEOs that thinks the product is the height of perfection and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. It blows my mind that a developer wouldn't think that people would use a downloads page to download something, though.

I hate to sound like the typical fanboy, but I really think Windows could do with following Apple's approach with Snow Leopard - feature freeze, just go back and fix things. Make it faster, make it more usable, address stupid quirks, performance issues. Honestly, I think that should happen a lot more in programming. Take your 1.0, and build out your additional features in your 1.x line. 2.0 is a rewrite of all of the features accumulated throughout the 1.x line. Cleaner, leaner, meaner, and wholly more awesome. It rarely happens, but there you go. Of course, you don't need to follow those version numbers, but you get the idea.

My main issues with Windows as a whole are speed, reliability, and the countless UI quirks and inconsistencies (those weird things you learn to work around or avoid, but always nag at you a bit). I want things to make sense and be standards-based. Ever tried querying the search catalogs directly before? It sure as hell isn't SQL (more significantly, why are the catalogs a) off by default and b) not just one giant index per drive?), which would at least make sense to programmers even if the rest of the world would work off of a more user-friendly interface. I realize that a lot of the reliability issues aren't their fault but in fact come from third-party drivers, but they really need to do something better to sandbox things. I still can't run Vista on the only decent PC in the house due to driver issues (and yes, I HAVE tried recently; if it hasn't been fixed in the last year and a half, it's not going to happen), which is absurd. It's not especially dated hardware, and was fairly high-spec at the time Vista came out.

Applications really need to be wholly re-engineered to be much cleaner. They could maintain compatibility with existing stuff by virtualizing a registry on a per-app basis, but the whole concept of that thing should have died a decade ago. Apple doesn't have it perfect, but their approach (an app as you see it through the GUI is just a folder with .app as the suffix; all of the contents are contained within and preferences are typically limited to one XML-based file in the user's library folder) is pretty good on the whole. I'd honestly like to see MS take it even further than this, and make it so that an application never exists outside of its own folder unless you're creating/modifying another file (documents, etc).

Oh, and syncing. For the love of god, syncing. For all of the problems that MobileMe has, at least I don't have to control my own domain-based network to have something remotely similar to preferences syncing. I realize they're two totally different things and what Windows has works fantastically for business users, but there's really no good tools for the home user as far as I'm aware. Granted I've put most of my day-to-day stuff "in the cloud" to avoid the issue, but I really consider it a workaround as I'd much rather be in better control of my data. This is something that all operating systems need to handle much better.

Updates should be cleaner too. The whole Windows Update architecture feels somewhat bolted-on in XP, and didn't change much in Vista. Granted this is more of an issue at the distribution end, but I'd still prefer to see a simple update package with a change list than a dozen hotfixes that are somewhat tied to my hardware and software. I may get some stuff that's not strictly necessary, but it may preemptively fix other problems for me. And it's just a lot cleaner and less intimidating. I'd love for normal programs to be able to hook into the same updating system as well - the architecture wouldn't be too complicated to implement if done right.

It'd be great if MS stopped trying to use Windows to sell me other services too. This goes back to the use of open standards where applicable. I'm much less inclined to use ANY services from a company that keeps trying to upsell me. I fear the potential vendor lock-in, so rather than locking me in they end up pushing me away. They can have something or they can have nothing - so when they take their all-or-nothing approach, they lose.

 

I use vista, and I like it - but it does have its faults. Particularly I agree with the transparency thing as files are literally /everywhere/.

Dunno what I would like to see in windows 7 to be honest, vista is doing its job just fine for me

edit: also they could take ****ing internet explorer out of the main package, that **** is ****! (goddamn, have s**t rather than lemon curd )

 

windows 7: microsoft should scrap everything. go with a posix base like everything else, and release some sort of OPTIONAL emulation layer for legacy apps. everything should be OPTIONAL (ie internet exploder, winblows media, whatever they want to call their crap mail program, the gui, etc.). so more like 2008 server core. also no 32 bit! in any case it should be 64 bit only. it's time to force other dinosaur software vendors to catch up to technology. i find it sad that i still come across 16 bit installers and such on recent (last couple of years) programs. In short give me a 64 bit dos like os. i don't need your operating system getting in the way of running programs. the os should be as small, unobtrusive and low resource as possible. not a 32 gigabyte behemoth of useless "features". quit trying to make the os do EVERYTHING. theres other software for that.

 

the one thing i would like is a bit more detail in task manager for example why do i have 6 instances on svchost running, what is each one doing.

 

dream OS, well i hope the 'home prem or Pro' editions are alot cheaper than vista. As i still havent gone vista yet! lol! I like the idea of a custom install options alot! The GUI of vista looks nice but XP layout much better, maybe thats because its been tried and tested since win95 and hasn't been a big problem.

I dislike there activation system, if you go out and buy the disc why must you phone them up to activate it at a cost to yourself. All very well using the internet to activate it, but if you cant get online to do such an act then your boned! They should give the OS out free on disc with a 30 day trial period with most functions active, and then you purchase if you like it. If steam managed to stop people stealing HL:2 then why cant MS!

 

WHAT?

Care to expand that a lil bit?

 

he's a troll

 

Most off all, I'd like to be able to copy the whole of drive c: and have a workable OS (& apps) backup, which I could simply reformat C and copy it back again. The Mac used to be able to do this, but doesn't now. Should work with multi boot envirnments as well - appreicate that means backwards compatiability . . . but it's what I want.

Also centralised activation of software, using shared technology, which would allow multi boot OS on the same machine to each run the application in an activated state (albeit only one OS at a time) without any extra user effort.

An inbuilt virtualisation environment for the last two main consumer OS's from Microsoft . . . XP and Vista.

x64 bit, for ram usage, and more core support - so makes better use of the quad core 8gb plus machines which will be standards before too long.

An OS - whether by visual appearance, feel, functionality or a combination etc - that makes me feel good about using it.

Better in built backup software, for both OS/apps and data.

 

Some of you have got what you want. Looks like they're stripping some of the default programs from Windows 7, and relying on the Live programs instead.
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