Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 22 Feb 2011.
Would've loved to do something like this, but, well honestly i'm not so organised - that's what college tutors say - and age may be a problem. Never mind
I'll take the job, see you all bright and early on Monday morning, you can close the thread now Joe
I've just had a thought, I may be a bit old to fit the junior bit of the job description.
Launch a French version of bit-tech and count me in !
You guys obviously need somebody in Canada to do... you know... Canadian things. Test maple syrup, eat waffles, and stress test the latest igloos...
Urg!!1 The decisions.. work for bit-tech or do robotics degree...?
This is a great chance for some young gun!
What's the pay like?
Does it have to be a review, or could it be an article about an aspect of PC hardware?
Good opportunity! Good luck to everyone applying.
I'd rather not say in public as it depends on the applicant, but it's an entry-level role so you won't become a millionaire. What you will become is a write for the best website and magazine for enthusiasts; getting to play with lots of amazing new gear and games before anybody else and work as part of a great team.
Yes, it needs to be a review, as that's a large part of a staff writers job. Also, every applicant needs to do the same work, so we can fairly compare the results.
I was searching for the page with the photos and names of the team behind Bit-Tech and Custom PC and I could not find anything...
Shame I am rubbish at writing really Best of luck to whoever applys.
Let's see if I got this right. You want people to write a 500 word essay (work) prior to even discussing the pay scale. Is it worth the risk of moving from far away for an entry level position that pays just enough to eat ramen noodles every night? These are things you set out prior... you know what, I'm not even going to try and explain the shortcomings of the logic in this hiring scheme. If a company uses this method to hire applicants then the company isn't worth working for because they don't put out the effort to comb through resume's and applications and instead make all of you do their work for them. Gizmodo does the same thing and it's kinda sad to see. Garbage in, garbage out. Good luck.
actually, the position is probably meant for a young person that lives in London and stays at his parents home.
500 words isn't much, certainly not an essay. When I write content for any of my sites, I can easily do 600-700 words in 30-40 minutes max. Granted you'd spend more time writing 500 words for a review as part of a job application, although I doubt it'd take a prohibitively long amount of time. Plus not putting the wage range out in public straight away isn't unheard of, especially since I'm sure it'd be revealed openly once a hiring company has sifted through all the CVs etc.
I'm no expert in the field, but as far as I'm aware this is a perfectly standard way of recruiting junior journalists who probably don't have a portfolio they can submit. Recruiting journalists is a very different beast to other kinds of recruitment.
The entire point of entry-level jobs is to get experience and a foothold on a career. If all you're concerned about is money then you've already missed the point and might want to take a look at today's entry-level job market. Any pay at all for this is better than the unpaid internships some people end up with just the meet the work experience required by profitable positions.
I'm not sure I see how that logic works. This is a creative job and an entry level position which will have a lot of competition. We need some way to gauge applicants fairly to ensure we hire the best person, but still need to acknowledge that many people may have limited or no experience (it's called entry level for a reason). So, asking people to write a (very) short writing sample is neither a dastardly move nor unusual. 500 words is only about half a page and it's not something we will publish or share.
Simply: we are looking for good writers but, because anyone can just write 'Good writer' on a CV, we need to see some evidence of writing ability.
It's also worth pointing out that the writing sample forms a good barrier of entry to dissuade poor applicants from applying (saving everyone time). And, contrary to your insinuation that we don't comb through them, all samples are then read and discussed multiple times by multiple senior staff members. It's why it usually takes several months to find and hire the right person - because we do put the time in.
It's how all journalists are recruited, by the way - including all the team (who you call 'Garbage') here at the moment. When I was interviewing at Future Publishing years ago I had to do a sample article, an interview, a standardised grammar and editing test and do an interview of my own. THAT was over the top, this isn't. It's a simple and logical system - CV + sample of work (any established journalist will already have a portfolio to hand), followed by interviews and a (paid) test day if it comes closely down to two or three applicants.
You're missing the fact that this is a good opportunity to work for a respected publication as part of a large and well-known publishing house. There are few full time jobs in the UK in tech and games journalism too. The prospect of a stable and regular income is far more appealing and less daunting than the world of freelance. And 500 words is really not going out of your way too much...
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