Other Would Bit-Tech like me to Return

Firstly, I would like the mods to not delete or lock this thread, and for this account to remain open while BT discusses this situation.

So as a lot of you know, my main account is on ignore, and I knew of my global ignore through someone else (but I was not PM'd at all regarding it which was I thought was wrong, and then when I made another thread, the title was turned to a smiley face and locked instantly), and it seems that the BT mods have had a problem with me since my Jade Goody comments, comments which others agreed too, even Parkinson stated something similar to what I said, but the mods highly disagreed to the comments and made a complete U-turn on what they thought of me as a whole. And like many have stated, they actually think you are abusing your power against me, and you know what, I totally agree.

As I've been here for a while, and as this is a public forum with many members, I thought it would be better, not only for the mods, but for the members who use the forum to decide if they want me back, purely because they are the ones reading my comments. I personally do not think my comments are bad, they are just sometimes different to regular posts because if I feel that I need to add something to a discussion, I will, even if I am against 50 other people, I'll state what I personally think, is that wrong? Hell no, this is a public forum, everone is different, wether it's skin colour, nationality, opinions, or age, we are all different. When I stated about the whole raw egg, raw meat situation, I was instantly wrong because it was me stating it, and because I stated it, it was wrong, so pretty much STFU from the mods because I'm living proof that you don't need to be Kim and Aggy from How Clean is Your House to stay healthy.

The only problem the mods have with me is my opinions, nothing more, nothing less, and from what I have read, different opinions basically mean "troll", so if you are a Christian, and I am a Muslim, whatever I say is trolling because it's different to what you believe in, utter rubbish. And it's not like I haven't contributed to the forum, I have done in many cases, but the mods don't care about that, all they see is I was against Jade Goody, therefore I am scum to them, a rag doll.

You know, since the ignore, I've cut my internet usage down a lot, which is a good thing, so I thank the mods for that, but it doesn't make what they did right. I'll tell you another opinion of mine which you'll most likely disagree on too, the latest MP scandle. The general public hates these MPs because they have more money, bigger homes, more homes, and get the added extra of expenses, nothing more, it's jealousy. There are some MPs that are commiting fraud, and they should be sent to court for it, but the majority are not doing all that bad, they are taking advantage of something that needs taking advantage of, and if we where MPs, we all would of done what they have done, who needs to spend £2k on a TV from your own salary when you can buy it with Public Money? It's genius.

I read that I was PM'd and warned for my posts many times, and that I PM'd back in a rude manner, in fact, I was PM'd twice in the last 6 months, and that I replied in a decent manner, so don't lie on that subject because on I'm not here, and you know what, if anyone was being rude, it was the mod, cpemma against me. I won't post the PM, because it's a PM, because it gets on my nerves, but it basically said

and I replied with

Anyway, enough writing, and if the thread gets locked then so be it, but that would also be a wrong decision. So, I would like the regular users to state their opinion, and if you dont want my presence back, then I won't come back, and another option, activate my main account, and let the general users view my 3000 posts, to see if they want me back.

I am off to bed, and going to that penny bazaar in the morning because I'm sad.

"I'll be Back" or not, we shall see.

Major

 

There's a difference between stating a differing opinion and insulting someone elses.

*Waits for the burny burny flames*

 

i wasn't going to post anything, but eh. i have nothing against your opinions and respect your right to them, regardless of whether i agree with them or not.

it's just the way you express them that irks me.

 

I must agree with Itazura here, I read these forums a fair bit since joining way back whenever it was, and I do tend to make some posts here and there should I think them necessary (more of a 'long time lurker, first time poster' kinda person!)

tbh, again, its your opinions and your entitled to express them as you stated, this is a public forum and all

lets hope this all gets resolved eh!

 

I have had to edit and constrain myself quite a few times for some of the expressed opinions about disabilities and illnesses.

Opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone has one. I realize I'm on a forum with members 1/3 my age and I have the maturity to move on when an objectionable point of view comes a long..

It's just the way you express those opinions that is objectionable - not the fact that you have those opinions.

john

 

Unfortunately, the bit-tech forums are not a democracy. If the mods decide you're gone, you're gone. While you and me have not seen eye to eye a fair few times (and I won't pretend to be your biggest fan), I wouldn't want you banned. But as I say, forums like this are not run by the users, the mods have the right to make their own decisions. And I'm sure this one has been properly discussed in the moderators only subforum.

 

Having not read your original (apparently controversial) posts I really douby my ability to add anything constructive to this, but will try. Being the owner and head admin of a once very active forum myself I can say this:

everyone is entitled to an opinion as long as it isn't put across in an unfriendly or agressive manner. For my own forum I set a list of firm but fair rules to make it a family friendly place. Anyone who crosses the line and breaks the rules gets warned then slapped with the ban hammer. Most of the time all of our mmebers behave themselves, but occasionally I or my other admins have had to ban people or just give strong warnings.

Some people might not like to accept it, but in online environments there is a chain of command and a hierarchy. If you disrespect an admin or a mod to in any online environment, in my opinion you have instantly overstepped the mark. I have plenty of experience with admining games and moderating forums, and whilst the admin is not always right, you have to respect their decisions and their power. If I was the admin in this case, I would see what you have posted as potentially hostile and ask that you continue the discussion with the staff concerned in private, as that's clearly what this is. It isn't a public matter. It is between you an the moderators or admins, and as such we (the genreal population of the public forum) should have no say in whether we think you should be reinstated as an active member under your original account or not.

 

Thanks for the comments, gives me some insight.

Mods decisions are final, they have the power to be final, and like many, I used to be a part of a team on a massive online website that had contact with EA and many others, and if someone misbehaved, it would go to a public poll, because a few mod opinions might be wrong compared to the thousands of users who use the forum.

I made this, because, If the mods decided to turn off this silly ignore option, and let me return, and the users didn't want me back because of my apparently "bad" comments, then even with my account active, I wouldn't post, pure and simple. I have not been contacted by anyone, so I was in total limbo with this if you see my view.

Jhanlon303, I wouldn't comment on illness if I had not been through a situation where I was involved with it, many members of my family have died regarding cancer and other illnesses, so I'm not someone just making random comments.

 

Permanent bans are a little like a death sentence.

My son was banned because they didn't like the jokes he made on his MUD forum. He had spent years helping to develop it. He was unhappy and depressed for a very long time. He's still depressed, but it's not so bad now. It's been well over a year since they did it.

I don't like to see anybody permanently banned unless they steal or scam in the Marketplace forum.

 

The admins also have to take into account, that many use the forums without actively posting, these people are of course a valuable source of potential revenue for Bit-Tech, which is a commercial entity.

If one user is deliberately inflammatory and aggressive, especially without proffering any significant intellectual or knowledgeable input, it may scare more reticent viewers from joining the community, just as many would avoid the rough pub, this affects us all, as we lose their insight and experience.

Major, as the site's admins blocked you, it would have been best to discuss the matter directly with them, as your actions may be seen as an attempt to undermine their authority.

 

inb4lock. starting a thread to discuss your ban is very bad form.

you've been on my ignore list for a lot longer than you've been banned. it seemed that most of your posts were not just expressing your own opinion, but attempting to drag other people in the thread who disagreed with you into an argument.

 

I've never understood people who use the ignore list. Not having a go, obviously, it's perfectly up to you, I just couldn't handle missing bits of the conversation - how do you keep up with discussions in threads?!

 

I've been banned myself major.. on evga were had like 5-6k posts I think- helped a ton of people over there too- just took one day of me goofing around and the next thing I knew had a email from get this- jewishmafio@evga.com (it was joe lol) telling me to hang upside down and have my bf kick my face up around the back of my ass.. I wasn't too pleased- but that's the way it goes

I don't mess with mods on here.. even humor wise cause it can only lead to someone getting their panties in a bunch =] I like helping in the technical section- to me it's just a more constructive use of time if you help peeps out instead of sitting around

I liked your off the wall posts myself.. at least it was entertaining XD gave people things to talk about even if you weren't serious

 

Feel free to ignore me because i (obviously) can't claim to be active, but i do lurk a lot, and from what ive seen, i don't think your comments were the reason you were banned, it was your attitude towards other forum members who you disagreed with, disagreeing is fine of course, but you seemed, angry?
Its like you were giving your point across, then when someone gave a conflicting point you responded with not a direct flame, but not exactly nicely.

My advice is to apologize to the forum admins and don't try to demonise them for "abusing power", the admins on this forum are a lot better than a lot of other admins ive seen, i myself was banned on a forum for just disagreeing with admins (who then went on to flame me because i said opera was a good web browser hehe), and these admins are nothing like the admins on there who were all I AM SO POWERZFUL I OWN THIS NUB.

Just apologize to the admins and ask them to let you back, even if its just a trail (be on your best behavior) because you are(were) an active member and im sure a lot of bit-techers miss you.

 

What's an ignore list? A forum feature or "If it says from" just don't read?

john

 

May as well throw in my 2 cents.
I see nothing wrong with anyone putting in his or her opinion. As long as they aren't rude about it.
I've seen many times, on this forum and others, where someone puts in a different opinion from that of the majority. And in a non-rude way, but because they are the minority they get flamed for it.
This causes the person to get defensive and say something that they shouldn't out of anger.
And then because they are the minority, all of a sudden they are the troll.
When in fact I think that the majority can easily be what is considered to be a "troll"

I have no idea what thread Major is talking about. Or any of his opinions from the past. Quite frankly when I am not on the forum, I don’t think about it, or anyone here. Or what anyone on here says.
There have been times in the past, where someone has made reference to some of the hardships that I have gone through in the past and that they are glad to see that I have gotten past that part of my life. That didn’t just touch my heart, it blew me away. That someone could remember that about a total stranger on the Internet. Wow, good on you.

I see and remember regular names, but I don’t remember what they have said in the past.
I can remember a few arguments I have had in the past, mainly on smoking issues, but not who they were with. Because I don’t care. It’s the Internet....

I guess the point that I am trying to make is that as long as no one is rude when they bring up an opinion, you shouldn't be rude to them. even if you don’t agree. No matter which side of the argument you are on, majority or minority.

So if Major wants back in, I see no problem with it.

 

User CP -> Settings and Options -> Edit Ignore List.

Simple, if you add someone to your ignore list their posts will not show up when you view the forums. Not sure how it works if people on your ignore list start threads though - notatoad, do you not see any of the thread at all, or do you just get the thread with the opening post removed?

 

Any chance to get a few of the offending posts?
I read a lot of the forums, and have probably come across them, but never appalled by the comments you said.

 

Thanks for the info. Although I will probably never use it.

john

 

I'll +1 that

i suppose what a lot of people have said on here is true, theres a way of expressing your opinion, and at the end of the day, this is a 'family forum' so due care should be taken

still a decision for the mods to be making though, that i must agree with