I got these a while back when I was looking for a new watch. Orient Marshall Loved this watch + band combo. It's an entry level automatic. Has held up pretty well so far, and keeps ticking for a couple of days sitting. The metal band that comes with it is garbage. The luminescent coating isn't very bright either. Also, you can feel and hear the winding mechanism when you quickly swing/twist your arm. As this is my first automatic, I'm not sure what exactly that means . But it seems sturdy enough. Seiko SNDF87 Chronograph Got this one since it's a little more classy looking and has a decent metal band for evening out. The luminescent coating is nice and bright. It's got a curved lens which some may not like.