Build Advice Xmas 09 Build components advice

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  1. Carper

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    So within the next week im going to be making a order for my Xmas build. After many months of wondering what to get i finally have a list. Ive come here to see what you guys think of it and see if anything needs to be changed.

    Case - Antec 902 £86.99
    Motherboard - MSI P55-GD65 £125.70
    CPU - Intel i5 retail £144.05
    Ram - G skill 4gb 1600mhz blue £79.91
    CPU Cooler - Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro rev.2 £18.27
    Graphics card - 512mb sapphire Radeon HD 4350 £31.55
    PSU - Corsair VX550W £62.68
    Hard drive - Samsung F3 1TB £61.97
    Optical Drive - Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE £16.43
    OS - Windows 7 Home Edition £82.88

    Total - £564.87 (without PSU and OS)

    Thats the list of components im thinking of getting what do you think? Has anyone used the Arctic freezer 7 pro rev.2 with the i5 if you have what were the temps? Also the reason for the cheap graphics card is because im waiting for the ATI 5850 to come in stock and i will be getting it early next year. The reason for the non modular PSU is because i got it for free and hopefully i will get the cables tidy. Luckly i got windows 7 before release and got it for £40 so i dont need that. I think thats about it would i need to buy anything else like cables?

    I have a old mice and keyboard im going to use and im going to use my TV as a monitor for a few weeks then buy a monitor. The TV is a Samsung LE32R88BDX i think it should work fine with the graphics card and its not going to be for long.

    Thanks for any help given
     
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  2. PureSilver

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    No comment on anything else, but why buy a retail processor when you're going to ditch the stock heatsink anyway? OEMs should be cheaper.

    Other than that it will all work (I'm not guaranteeing there aren't better prices around, though). The motherboard should include all the cables you could need.
     
  3. smc8788

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    For some odd reason you can't buy OEM versions of Lynnfield CPUs anywhere AFAIK.
     
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    Really? Bizarre. I wonder why?
     
  5. Carper

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    I found a OEM version on overclockers but its £40 so only a saving of £4 so not really worth it. If you know of anywhere cheaper for some of the components let me know and i might order from them. Thing is i have free delivery from scan and ebuyer do it when you order over £50 these sites seem to be the best bets.

    Does anyone have any idea how far i can overclock the i5 with the arctic cooling freezer 7 pro rev.2?
     
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    im going for the same build tbh, except the case will change. can't wait to get my hands on it.
     
  7. Carper

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    yeh same. hopefully everything goes to plan. enjoy your build!
     
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    It depends, but I think your temps will limit you to around the 3.4-3.6 mark unless you really want to push it, then maybe ~3.8. I know the Freezer 7 is good value, but TBH it's not that much of a step up from the stock cooler so you might want to consider the Titan Fenrir for an extra £15.
     
  9. Carper

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    thanks for the heads up i'll look at some reviews tomorrow and try to make my mind up. one bonus about the freezer 7 is it has thermal paste already on it, i wasnt looking forward to putting that it.
     
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    AVOID pre-applied thermal anything, in general it's never anywhere near as good as doing it yourself. My i7 was the first time I'd ever done it, and it's just fine - read a few tutorials, maybe try it a couple of times before you do it and then turn it on, and you'll be fine.
     
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    This is all you really need to read TBH.

    Titan Fenrir 2nd overall (15.5°C above ambient temperature), and the Fenrir with the fan set on the lowest setting (25.5°C) still outclasses the Freezer 7 with the fan speed at it highest setting (53.1°C).
     
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    Putting thermal paste on is quite easy, and worth it. Its also worth noting that its cooling ability on 1156/1366 is greater than on 775.
     
  13. Carper

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    after looking on the internet the titan fenrir does look the better cooler. only issue i have is the fitting process and the thermal paste. what if i put to much on? what if i get it everywhere and on my motherboard? these are questions im asking myself.

    after looking on the net there doing a xmas edition with the 1156 bracket with a red top looks quite nice but im doing a blue themed pc, just my luck why couldnt they make it blue!!
     
  14. H2O

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    Putting TIM on is not bad at all. Put on some latex gloves, put small glob in the center, and with a gloved hand, slowly work the TIM towards the corners, ensuring that you spread it evenly.

    When spreading TIM, it is always better to start off with less and add more if you need it. When you are finished, you should see a thin, even layer (it should be opaque). If you use non conductive TIM, you won't have to worry about it getting on your components.
     
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    question is how thin should the layer be? does anyway know a good website for a guide or a youtube video?
     
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    As reading through the comments of that article will suggest, the application method suggested there is extremely controversial.

    Given that this is the first time that OP's ever applied TIM, I strongly suggest he uses the rice-grain method; I did and it works just peachy for me without having to do any of the finger-spreading etc. There's little solid evidence - none in that article - to suggest that the spreading method is more effective than the rice grain, and some theoretical evidence why it should be less so. Most of all - Keep It Simple, Stupid! Rice grain is easier for first-timers. :thumb:
     
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    It's funny. Everyone seems to have their own method, but I don't think people realise how little difference there is between them. It's not rocket science and many people try to overcomplicate it. It's more important IMO to use the right amount - all you need is a very thin layer to even out the bumps on the IHS and the base of the heatsink; too much and your temps will go through the roof. How it gets there is largely irrelevant in my experience, and I've tried a few different methods on different occasions.
     
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    After reading that great bit tech article its helped me a lot. As you said the comments are very controversial with the two main methods being spreading it or putting the HSF on to do it. I wonder what method they recommend in the titan fenrir manual because this would probably be the better and easier way. Just wondering is the thermal paste that comes with the titan fenrir good stuff? I only want to do it once and with some good paste.
     
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    The TIM you use makes little difference really, maybe 1-2°C maximum. I'm sure the Titan stuff will be fine, but if you're that worried about it then just throw some AS5 or MX-3 in the cart with it.
     

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