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Your job, is it worth it!

Discussion in 'Serious' started by Mr Happy, 31 Mar 2010.

  1. bigc90210

    bigc90210 Teh C

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    Job: Cloud DevOps (Internet Banking)
    Wage: 45k Base, 60k+ after on call and overtime. Macbook Pro, Latest Iphone
    Worth It: Definitely worth it. Extremely difficult/taxing work (always working with bleeding edge tech), work is heavily scrutinised due to being regulated by the FCA. I MUST keep constantly learning or be out of a job within a couple of years. Slightly annoying that if I didn't live in Newcastle I'd be getting 75-90k doing this exact job down south. Aiming to get the Southern rate while living up North is the dream.
     
  2. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    I still have a mortgage to pay and family to support at the end of the day, so as you say, not interested in taking a bath on base salary because of the slim chance I might win the lottery in 5 years. I know too many people who took a big hit to their basic pay for a couple years and were then left in the cold.

    My version of the right company is neither a UK or US based company for different reasons. Something EMEA based without a strong UK presence would be attractive as an opportunity to develop the UK or NEMEA business with a couple of acquaintences. Partly for fun, partly for the experience, partly for something different, and only after that for the possibility buyout or IPO in the longer term.

    The business unit I work in now has a bit of startup culture about it on account of acquisition and only mild integration - I find it frustrating and fantastic in equal parts. I think without the big corporate envelope I'm in now it would be even more interesting though.

    Certainly not quitting the day job unless everything is right, and even then not on some dream of a big payday in a short time. Probably why I haven't actually propositioned anybody yet!
     
  3. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Update time...
    Job: Doctor
    Wage: £42k, ish
    Worth it? Most days, yes. The government hates us and wants to pay a pittance, but right now the salary is okay. There's a lot of responsibility, literally for people's lives, but you also do things that are really unique. One day I've got my hands inside somebody's abdomen with a knife in hand, the next I'm having a difficult discussion about a terminal diagnosis...or a positive discussion about negative results. I work long hours (50+ per week, highest of 84), which is why I think the pay is only just about acceptable. But I'm not quitting any time soon.
     
  4. MightyBenihana

    MightyBenihana Do or do not, there is no try

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    Congratulations!!!

    The government only pays you so poorly to help make the NHS look bad and get you to turn on it so they can privatize the lot. Money out of politics and the end of the revolving door of government - lobbyist - regulator - government that those in that system go through.
     
  5. Byron C

    Byron C Over-reacting and over-analysing since 1982

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    Doctor... Cardiff... Not that many hospitals round here :)

    In all seriousness I wish you the best. I know quite a few people who have left the NHS recently and gone private, either because of the substandard pay, poor working conditions/long hours, or abuse from both patients and other members of staff.
     
  6. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Yes, I work at UHW and UHL ;) previously up in Abergavenny (this is my second year).

    Whilst I acknowledge that my salary is higher than the UK average, which leads to some people saying we're overpaid, I think for the work done the NHS in general underpays it's clinical/front line staff (healthcare assistants, nurses etc). Its been done gradually over time by not awarding pay increases, so inflation steadily wears it away. Combined with resources to deliver care getting scarcer it just adds to stressed and overworked staff. Our rota is covered in gaps, which we try to fill ourselves, which means working long weeks without breaks, but there's a limit to what an individual can work sustainably.
     
  7. LennyRhys

    LennyRhys Oink!

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    How'd I miss this the first time round?

    Job: Mature Student, BA (Hons) Computer Arts, starting year 3 in Sept.
    Wage: -£1,820 pa in tuition fees, and accruing debt at a rate of £6,750 pa (student loan). By the time I graduate (second degree) I'll owe more than £40K to the Student Awards Agency for Scotland :clap:
    Worth it? Yep. It's taken me a very long time to have any desire whatsoever to be on a career ladder of any sort, and I've found something I'm very passionate about and deeply committed to, and in two years time I'll be fully trained for a number of awesome jobs including concept/production art for AAA games and movies. I'm not keen to board the freelance wagon straight away but I'd like to aim for it further down the line when I have decided on an area of specialism, and I'd also love to teach as well. My ideal job would be part time illustration and part time teaching/lecturing.

    The offshoot of the above is that it's an enormous endeavour to fit in a relatively short space of time and it's really bloody hard work, but it helps that I love it.


    Job: Freelance illustration & graphic design
    Wage: £20/hour (my undergraduate rate... this will rise steeply in 2018)
    Worth it? Again, yep - I barely do any paid work because I have so little time, and it's nice to get some experience that also pays well. I recently did a book jacket layout & illustration and the publisher was flabbergasted at how little I charge ("only" £500 for a week's work). I've also done a number of magazine covers and some promotional material for various companies, and whilst graphic design isn't my fave it's all good practice.
     
  8. Byron C

    Byron C Over-reacting and over-analysing since 1982

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    Sure your salary might be above average, but it should be. We should be paying more to doctors, nurses, and healthcare staff. People should be compensated well for the pressure they're put under (current conditions aside), what they have to deal with, and the hours they have to put in. I know the money isn't the primary motivation for getting into healthcare (in whatever form), but people who do should be adequately rewarded; if nothing else then to at least help pay off all the debt they've racked up.

    My salary is above average too and I work for a bank, so you can imagine what people think of me :)
     
  9. gagaga

    gagaga Minimodder

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    Bloody hell, that's three times what they get paid in the UK (including NHS plus additional private work)
     
  10. gagaga

    gagaga Minimodder

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    Yeah, the other half looked at the US for a while. The gap is narrowing here - tutition fees and other loans mean meds here can be touching $100k US on graduation, though the interest rates are much lower and the way the loans are structured means doctors are unlikely to ever actually pay them back. Insurance here is catching up fast - about 15% of private billing now. She started paid work at 23 (med school at 18), fully qualified at 33. Working hours sound very similar though.
     
  11. Stanley Tweedle

    Stanley Tweedle NO VR NO PLAY

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    Wage... managed to get it up beyond the £500 per week mark.

    Is it worth it? I ****ing hate it. I'm pretty good at it and like the clients but the work is very much under-valued and employees exploited.

    I hate being away for weeks at a time.
     
  12. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    Job: Head of Technical/Purchasing Manager for a small IT firm
    Wage: £1100 a month
    Worth it: It pays bills. It's sometimes interesting. It isn't challenging. So kind of worth it.
     
  13. Mr Happy

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    New year's eve, stuck at work because of piss head drug taking prisoners being complete T***S and over 20 of them locking themselves in a cell refusing to come out

    Happy F*ING new year. Here is to a F*KD up justice system ran by minimal staff, private company's and appeasement to those we are locking up.

    Hope you all enjoy 2017 you complete and utter .................................................
     
  14. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001 [DELETE] means [DELETE]

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    I'd just lock the 20 of them in the cell from the outside. Sounds like it wouldn't be too much fun after a while. Those cells don't seem too big. Having watched a few documentaries on British prisons recently I have at least some idea (from an outside perspective) of the **** you're dealing with, I know its pretty bad dude.
     
  15. Yadda

    Yadda Minimodder

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    Do you have any fireworks? :naughty:
     
  16. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Too bad you can't just give them a bale of weed and turn up the ventilation system. Nobody fights, nobody dies and nobody cares.
     
  17. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Indeed, NHS salaries are now about £15,000,-- below where they would be if they had risen in line with inflation like private sector salaries have since 2008.

    Recently because of Brexit I started looking at jobs in Ireland. The difference in salary was quite an eye opener. I'd earn about £20,000,-- more over there.

    I'm calling it here first: in the next three years there will be a referendum on: "Keep the NHS"/"Replace the NHS". There will be a story spun on how the NHS is an obsolete system out of touch with the modern health care needs of the people, run and populated by rigid and lazy professionals cushioned by a soft public sector job, while a private health insurance system will give patients more 'control' of their money and how it is spent on a better service because they will be 'valued as customers' in an agile system that will guarantee cost-efficiency, quality and innovation through free market competition. Of course the masses --especially the disgruntled poor-- will gobble it all up and vote to get rid of the NHS, which will be replaced by an American style private health system delivered largely by American companies in the new TTIP-plus bilateral trade deal that the UK government will wrought with Trump.

    Three things will ensue:
    - The poor will get a crap health service. I mean, it will be atrocious. The middle classes will struggle a bit but look after their health better, so they'll manage. The upper middle classes will do just fine --they often already have private health insurance anyway.
    - Low skilled health and social care worker will get more exploited and leave. There will be a huge influx of immigrants from the developing world to make up the shortfall. Theresa May will not reach her immigration target.
    - High skilled health workers will actually get paid better because there will be fewer of them, and in the end they are needed. Doctors will do really well out of it, although as SitraAchra says, they'll have more overheads to pay.
     
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  18. Harlequin

    Harlequin Modder

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    wages in certain sectors in Ireland are good for the reason of migration - many young people want to leave for opportunities elsewhere
     
  19. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    I don't see what you're describing happening anytime soon Nexxo, despite how you see the NHS it's highly valued in the general population and I'd venture to say most people believe it's bad management (*top level) that causes most of the problems.

    Added to that is that there appears to be high levels of support (historically) for renationalising some of the UK's infrastructure like the railways, it's just my opinion so maybe I'm seeing things through rose tinted glasses but i get the impression fewer people see privatisation as the cure to all problems.

    *Constant reorganisations from MP's because it's treated as a political football.
     
  20. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    I'm hoping you're right...
     

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