Motherboards ASUS P6T X58 Motherboard for Intel i7 (Nehalem)

what sort of numbers can we expect for supported PCIe lanes on P55? (if there's such thing) and how many weeks after x58 release can we expect such "general consumer" board to be ready?

 

Lol P55

the x58 is hot I really plan to get one.

We now days buy x48 for about 350$ ( asus rampage ) and it ROCK the hell out. So if the x58 will cost the same or 50$ more this is not a problem

The problem is the cost of the rams and if we want to use this SAS thing. it will be hard to buy really

 

Pah, DDR3 is coming down nicely in price... 2GB DDR3-1333 kits for $78 (on sale) or $160 for DDR3-1600 kits (regular price). It's *getting there* by October when we start seeing Nehalem ship to consumers the price will continue to drop. As you stated yourself, the X58 is a "high end" workstation/enthusiast style chipset which means Asus can throw in all sorts of crazy do-dads like a SAS controller knowing that Joe Blow who can afford a ~$400 motherboard, probably put it into a ~$300 case with a lot of other fancy equipment and won't balk at SAS prices ($2/Gb).... well maybe just a bit, at that price point he's prolly better off setting up a RAID 10 array with OCZ Core V2 SSD's.

We'll see, who knows? But just in case, you might want to buy a bra

 

It's not the price of memory, it's the memory controller. Just scale back your expectations a touch

We'll be testing single dual and triple channel, as well as seeing the effect of 6 DIMMs populating the board on performance.

Bloomfield will only see X58 from Intel and NF200 for the timing being from Nvidia until it can make a chipset of its own. If Lynfield doesn't arrive until Q3 next year, that's a long time of X58 sales and tweaking with Penryn sitting underneath. I'd imagine a relaunch of P45 boards next January to accommodate a more DDR3-centric approach to the mid-high end, DDR2 boards coming down in price and X48s dropping either quite a bit of phasing out completely.

Taiwan will demand new products to keep selling new stuff - right now there's a big gap in Q1 and Q2 next year unless Nvidia has something to say about it or Larabee arrives? I'd also casually suggest a G4x/50-something since the G45 is not living up to expectations either.

We know the proposed cost of Nehalem CPUs, yet, we don't know the launch date (I also know the new price of Intel X58s which I'm unable to divulge yet ^_^). Logic and history dictates Intel will launch with its 3.2GHz XE model, but there's not telling when the 2.66GHz will follow - same time? weeks? months? I'd suggest Intel will launch something competitive in this area when AMD launches its 45nm in Q4 (providing it's on time!), unless it plans to drop its pants on all Penryn CPUs instead like it did with the Q6600 versus Phenom X4 9850/9950 BE.

Too many factors are in play right now to make a solid prediction, although it's a lot of fun in the mean time

 

Oh I'm not making any solid predictions about triple-channel performance sweeping up the competition, however as technology progresses, eventually we will move into adopting DDR3 as the mainstream standard, triple-channel etc and given time it will supersede DDR2 and dual-channel, as DDR2 did to previous generations. What I am "happy" about, I guess you might see it as maybe me having high expectations, is that fact that the push towards making DDR3 more mainstream and in return cheaper is finally starting to pickup momentum with X58, P55, etc. It's rare that in a period of 2-3 months we're seeing A) New awesome chipset. B) Huge push for the adoption of a new memory standard. C) Brand new Intel socket. D) ATI and nVidia duking it out across the entire spectrum of GPU's. E) Larrabee on the horizon. I dunno, it just seems that a lot more "interesting" technology is coming up quickly and is being priced in a far more reasonable way, allowing average Joe's to quickly adopt new technology (ie. the aggressive pricing of Intel's CPU's).

 

I think most PC users would though. The £200 you could spend on an X58 motherboard recently got me from S939 to C2D with a Pentium Dual Core that clocks to 3.4Ghz, 4Gb of RAM and a decent P35 Mobo...

I REALLY REALLY REALLY wish motherboard makers would take a reality check and see that most PC builders don't have a spare £200 odd pounds to splash out on new motherboard... I come from a family that is by no means poor, but I still find it hard spending £80 on something thats 'old-hat' in about 2 months. Gah.

 

Dude I love to own a Crazy Strong Solid mobo. It's the base that you build every dam thing on it.

I bought my P965-DQ6 for 380$ when it came out!! and it worth it. I'm still using for about 2+ years now

The problem that every thing is expansive in this new tech. CPU/Rams/Mobos/GFXs/Soild State Drives/etc... Not fair at all

 

A cheap motherboard can be just as stable as a stupidly expensive one. Striker Extreme for example?

 

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R - Wednesday, front page

You pay for the technology, cost of components, development etc. The high end leads the low as with everything - people do buy £200 motherboards, even if it's only a few, just like people buy GTX 280s or HD 4870 X2s.

 

Good Bindi...

**Does the James Bond Bad-Guy cat stroking routine**

 

The dead standard Intel board was looking pretty good to me as long as it supports crossfire. There is a lot of 'fluff' on the Asus board in terms of the PATA controller and super IO chip. Assuming the SAS comment is right, it would be nice, but not something I would find as a reason to go with this board.

The one thing that would push me towards one board over another is the audio capabilities. I want something that has solid positional audio and both TOSLINK and coax SPDIF connections.
More PCIe slots (at more lanes per slot, like 4x slots) at the expense of PCI would be nice, but there are still a lot of PCI cards out there and PCIe still doesn't have as wide a selection.

 

Wait for the Asus WS or Gigabyte DQ6 models then imo.

I know some X58 product managers were looking to drop the floppy and IDE port, but we had a 50-50 split here in the forums and we're the ones who are traditionally more cutting edge than most buyers. Plus the fact that Taiwan is very conservative in general.

 

Bindibadgi

How 50-50, I check the thread and the results is

* Yes! I have IDE optical drives or hard drives still! 41 27.33%
* No! Get rid of that old thing - there's SATA for everything now. 109 72.67%

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=154101&highlight=floppy+port

 

Oh, it was the last time I checked it :|

Further reasons are in today's Asus Interview: http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2008/08/17/asus-motherboard-interview/1

 

I don't like how the prices of the high-end motherboards keep crawling up all the time... A couple of years back I paid 200 € for a motherboard and that was pretty much the most expensive (or atleast of the flagship-range) but now these things cost over 300 €? I don't know how much people actually buy these and how much it's just about marketing for the manufacturers.

Anyway there's really nothing new nor groundbreaking in this board TBH. Gazillion phases in the PSU, but so what? Five fan headers? blaah had that years back. SAS and 3-channel memories may change some things, but I'm sceptical about those as well. DDR3-prices will most likely fall as rapidly as DDR2 did when the DDR3-mobos really hit the markets.

Conclusion: the world still spins to the right direction. And also: I still have 5-11 months of serve left so these things may be old already when I get out...

 

That's because:

a) chipsets get more complex and cost more
b) QA takes more time and costs more
c) boards look better and cost more to manufacture
d) better hardware - investment in energy efficient technologies and other features
e) more hardware, more cooling, more heatpipes etc

 

hell yeah you are right Bindibadgi

New tech cost a lot to make.

 

Wait, I thought that was the new sb750 one?

 

If the 5 fan headers would be great if they can all be run by the ME system (I'm guessing the 'green power' chip is a micro behind the ICH10's ME). This way, something not using my main CPU could manage the fans as a whole system. Something like IPMI lite for consumers would be great (ESA looks like a good start).

I'll keep my eyes open for those boards you mention, I expect to hear more after IDF too

 

Foxconn A79A-S - early next week (I hope)