What is central Europe supposed to do in the current migrant crisis?

Yes, things are rarely peachy...



...regardless of the people it's populated by.

 

Totally agree on that. The whole thing has been a badly planned ad hoc reaction and Europe's message has been very mixed to say the least.

 

LEGIDA (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West) sound like a lovely bunch.


"Leftists clash with right-wing anti-refugee protesters in Leipzig."

http://www.dw.com/en/leftists-clash-with-right-wing-anti-refugee-protesters-in-leipzig/a-18715779

"The city's police reported that some 500 LEGIDA [Patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West] marchers where confronted with a counter movement of around 1,000 people who blocked the route of the rally. "

"DW: Over the past 12 months, PEGIDA and its "off-shoot" rallies have driven their cause with slogans, calling for migrants and refugees to leave Germany. Do you think the refugee crisis in Europe could provide LEGIDA with ammunition?
Nowicki: I'm not so sure because the news about refugees and the growing numbers isn't a new topic. What's changed, of course, are the pictures we've seen from Munich. Their notion of "Volkstod" meaning "death of the people" is a right-wing paranoia which has existed for decades and that's what they fear as a result of the increasing number of refugees.
But what I think is actually fueling LEGIDA right now is a sense of victimization. They feel victimized because in contrast to other cities in Saxony, namely Chemnitz and Dresden, LEGIDA is facing strong opposition here. And this opposition isn't only from your typical left-wing activists, but also wider support from the general public."

"Even though it hasn't been so widely reported, the potential for violence has always been there on LEGIDA's side. The people who caused the escalation yesterday were already there in the past, there's nothing new there.
What's changed, however, is the rhetoric of LEGIDA which is steering towards this escalation: this combination of them victimizing themselves, the idea that they're fighting the state, that they want to get rid of everything that represents our open society. This is what's driving the more violent people."

 

Anyone else watching Panorama on BBC1 at the moment? John Sweeney doing a sterling job as always but it's harrowing stuff.

 

Sounds like a tame old-firm day in Glasgow.

Yes, I stayed up far later than planned watching that. I missed the start though. I fear for the kid with the fractured jaw, just who exactly were the group he was travelling with and why? I'd like to think UK police would be all over that.

 

wrong thread sorry*

 

put up with it, tgey joined the euro club so they must put up with the costs as well as the benefits.

It's so hyprocritical how they are so anti-refugees. They joined the EU club because they know their working population will be migrate to Britain and Germany, work there and send money back to their home countries which grows their economy. But now they have migrants being placed in their borders they're all up in arms about it.

If you can't afford to be in the EU, GTFO

 

That is the most simplistic view on this thing, if i ever seen one. You completely ignore the points of why are the refugees being refused. The "christianity" thing is just a PR drama for the media, so the voters would vote them "because they did protect the country".

The main question is "what is the point?". You take someone from Greece. You put him in Slovakia. He will get food & shelter and 12 euros a month. Or he can move to Germany, work without work permit, and grab few hundred euros. What do you think these "refugees" will do ?

Do you really think they are actually coming back or sending money back ? LOL. Well ok, gypsies often come back, once they don't get more support in UK.

Do you really think it is a money issue ? It is an issue of the idea of refugee distribution itself being pointless. There are few countries as targets because of their benefits (UK, Germany, Sweden, Finland). If you send them in any of the other countries, where benefits are minimal compared to what they would get in on of the four above, then what is going to stop them from taking up work and living in one of the richer countries without permit ? Well ok, UK has the Channel, but the rest of the countries have no physical barriers stopping people from moving.

But if the idea is for Germany to not have to process asylum requests for the refugees who have Germany as their destination country, then sure, go ahead, force the quota system through. They will all end up in Germany anyway, the only difference will be that they are going to be there illegally. Like all the Albans and Kosovians who got their asylum requests rejected, and which got asked nicely to return to Albania or Kosovo.

 

Yes, there was a mass "return home" of EU migrnts after the 2008 economic crisis, when jobs dried up, the EU migrants couldn't stick around here on benefits and expensive UK rents so they moved back to their home countries.

Some do settle here. But on a meta level. There is a mass emigration in places like Romania & poland of working people leaving poland. As a result there is now a building boom in poland where poles working in Britain and Germany have sent money back. Incidently there is ashortage of labourers in Poland as theyre all in western europe so they have romanians migrating to poland and poles aren't happy with these "immigrants"