As they have still have an external IO die it is not outside the realms of possibility, likely hood is the IO macro probably supports everything.
)If true) My assumption is that they'll be G-series or Pro series intended for OEM sales, rather than retail parts. But AMD being AMD they'll end up in retail like they always do. I'll bet there's a lot of OEMs sitting on B450/X570 parts that htey would like something new and shiney to sell it through with.
This is fishy. Firstly it is not 3D Zen. Secondly it was rushed to get in before Intel, and it just sounds pretty disappointing. 9-13% on a die shrink. I mean yeah, the clocks look impressive, but that's only a single core. They did say they were making DDR4 versions, that has now vanished. £300 for a 6 core 12 thread CPU you have to then spend £150 on RAM for. And no doubt the boards will be really expensive, which kind of makes it feel like when DDR3 came out and people were spending £400 on a board and really expensive RAM just to run a Core 2 Duo in it. Will wait until the proper 3D ones come out. Certainly wouldn't rush out to spend all of that on a 6 core CPU though.
I think the rumours were based around the theoretical possibility of using zen 4 core chiplets with the older pcie-4/ddr4 i/o chiplet from zen 3 and/or earlier. Whether that's even remotely doable... or if AMD would even contemplate doing it if it was.... idk...
Noctua have announced that all but two of their AM4 coolers are AM5-compatible. The NH-L9a-AM4 low-profile cooler and the NM-AM4-L9aL9i mounting-kit both require fitting a custom backplate to the motherboard, which AM5 doesn't allow. They'll send out free AM5 brackets for these coolers on request
Deepcool have also announced free AM5 bracketry for their coolers in the US. Other territories will have to pay for shipping. https://www.techpowerup.com/299180/deepcool-announces-free-mounting-upgrades-for-amd-am5-socket
Think I'll be leaving CPUs for a while, managed to snag a 5700X that will be more than enough for me for quite some time. Just have to wait it out to see what RDNA3 brings to the party for a GPU upgrade. I'll probably see where AM5 is at once it's matured.
X670E motherboards for AM5 will not be cheap! https://www.techpowerup.com/299229/...r-socket-am5-x670e-motherboards-appear-online €420 to €2400! (Probably just placeholder prices, but still )
The USD rate is going to screw us in the UK for all imports so the rule of thumb of USD = GBP might go the other way that is now USD price is less than GBP price (inc taxes)
Indeed the rate was something like 1.37 for GBP to USD in Jan, now its 1.10, in percentage terms that is massive, so take last years prices for anything from US add ~25-30% and that'll be the ball park, there's always a bit of buffer in the conversion so prices can be static through fluctuations in currency but no company is sucking up that shift with the current economical situation.
Reading this thread has made me realise just how far behind the curve I am, both materially (PC in use) and logically (knowledge gap).
lol, Overclockers has put up the 7700x and 7900x and both show as in stock, but they currently have zero AM5 boards listed.
the ltt tl-dr seems to be - buy a 5800x3d or wait for the zen 4 equivalents the zen4 improvements feel a bit threadripper-y or like 40-series nvidia awesome if you need/can use it, but if you're gaming, that probably ain;t you Epyc buyers will be very pleased.
For those who like graphs (and penguins!) AMD Ryzen 9 7900X / 7950X Linux Gaming Performance AMD Zen 4 AVX-512 Performance Analysis On The Ryzen 9 7950X AMD Ryzen 9 7900X / Ryzen 9 7950X Benchmarks Show Impressive Zen 4 Linux Performance (Source: Phoronix)
240watts under load, not exactly the best time to relase such a power hungry lump. On the plus side I have an excuse to buy a 5900X now... Maybe Zen 4+/Zen 5 will see efficiency gains.
It does have efficiency gains, it just does a lot, the performance jump is quite large, making it quite competitive on performance per watt. perhaps lower end chips with less cores etc might put a better showing in.
