Electronics Need help with PCB layout

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  1. rvk2

    rvk2 What's a Dremel?

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    Hey guys, I'm making a circuit as a learning experience....its a LED flasher circuit. The schematic is on this site:
    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/page5.htm

    I usually just make my circuits on breadboard, but now I want to make an actual PCB of my own. I bought the pcb, the etchant solution etc..however, I was wondering if there's a "free" way of getting my schematic into a layout form. I tried using PCB123 and other programs, but none are really free. PCB123 let me do it for free, but it limits the board size.

    Is there a program that's really free that can take schematics and turn them into layouts? As a newbie, I find it hard sometimes to turn schematics into layouts. I also have student copies of PSpice and B2Spice, does anyone know if these copies can do this task as well?
     
  2. g0th

    g0th What's a Dremel?

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    I like CADSoft Eagle. Google to download it,

    The free version limits the board size too, but it's quite sufficent for many hobbiest projects.

    Here's an example of a PCB design i did with it:

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  3. bigal

    bigal Fetch n Execute

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    i like Circad98 from holophase... lacks in features, but i dont get on well with eagle.. i find it restricting, maby if i learnt it a bit more i would get on better, but i cant cope with its PCB layout part wanting to know what every component is... circad gives a nice grid representing 2.5mm holes (like veroboard) so its easy to work a layout.
     
  4. nleahcim

    nleahcim What's a Dremel?

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    I'm praying that's an autolayout... Because there are so many things that should have been changed that it's not even funny. You really ought to be more careful when laying out a board.
     
  5. bigal

    bigal Fetch n Execute

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    i can only see a few things, like tracks runing too close to stuff. i tend to make tracks as big as i can get away with and i fill all spare areas with polygon shapes.
     
  6. SteveyG

    SteveyG Electromodder

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    No decoupling capacitors, bulk capacitors and no load capacitors on the PIC's crystal also... ;)
     
  7. nleahcim

    nleahcim What's a Dremel?

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    The thing that bothered me was all the pointless vias. Almost every via could be elmininated without increasing trace length at all.
     
  8. chopsuwe

    chopsuwe What's a Dremel?

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    There is no program that I am aware of that will make a good layout. The whole electronics industry either still does it by hand or uses an autorouter to start with then tidy up by hand.
     

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