Graphics how would a x1950pro compare to an x1800xt

i used to ahve an x1800xt 256mb. and it wasnt a bad card, i only had a 17" lcd at the time and it had no problems with most games. now i have a 19" wide and a dying 6600 so i was wondering what kind of gain would the x1950pro be over the x1800xt. is it a massive jump or would it be worth sourcing a used x1800 instead, i see the 1950 has more than double the pipelines of an x1800 tho, surely this is good

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also how about the 7900gs as its the same kind of price, and evga have that nice step-up program.. idlike to know real world tho not 3dmark scores

 

I believe a 1950pro is roughly equal to the x1800xt, maybe a touch slower as its slightly better than a 7900GS which is slightly worse than the 7900GT which the x1800xt was a little better than. I'll be impressed if you can follow my rambling chain of logic but there it is. To upgrade performance from the x1800xt consider a x1900xt (~£160-180) or a 7900GTO (~£170).

 

If you wanna be really fancy on the upgrade, you could get an x1950xt, which have much better clockspeeds on both GPU and memory then an x1900xt, but cost a little more.

 

so it was

x1800xt
7900gt
x1950pro
7900gs

id have though the 1950pro would have been better than the x1800 as it can render more at once.. oh well ill probably get a x1800xt 512mb then or try and get a cheap x1900xt.. posdibly just a 256mb one

 

x1900xt is a good choice, or if you can get them, x1950xt is the same price(in the US right now), but higher standard clocks, 5mhz higher GPU and 360mhz higher memory, with the same amount of pipelines and shader processes. The x1950xt is also supposed to be very overclockable, you can bring the GPU up to x1950xtx speeds, and although the ram is GDDR3, you can run it at 2000mhz.

 

I'm sure I read a review that had the 512mb x1950 Pro beating a 512mb x1800XT. I'll look for it again. If you Google for reviews on the 512mb x1950 Pro you'll find that it has a really sweet level of perfomance and can even challenge and beat the 512mb 7950GT.

Here's one with an assortment of cards: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/x1950pro-gf7900gs.html

I would personally love a 512mb x1950 Pro (or two), but the prices are only a stones throw away from a 256mb x1950XT.

 

i will try to make this simple for ya

i owned 2 x1800xt and ran 3dmark 06 in crossfire mode scored

Score: 6007
Date: 2006-01-23
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 2208 MHz
GPU: ATI RADEON X1800 CrossFire Edition
594 MHz / 693 MHz
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1280x1024

and this is the result i got with a single x1950xtx

Score: 6211
Date: 2006-09-18
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 2527 MHz
GPU: ATI RADEON X1950 Series
2 MHz / N/A
OS: Microsoft Windows XP
Res: 1280x1024

and now ime just about to test 2 x1950xtx in crossfire stay tuned

 

Nice, but 3dmark 06 is more of a system benchmark and you're cpu is clocked higher with the x1950xtx so is a little biased. Nonetheless it's a mightly impressive feat for that 1 card.

 

Go for atleast an Geforce 8800 GTS if you want a good improvement otherwise you'll see no gain.

 

Nothing in it: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/graphics/charts.html?modelx=33&model1=607&model2=552&chart=226

 

As pretty much covered the X1950Pro tends to be pretty equal with the X1800XT, X1900GT & 7900GT. However the X1950Pro aren't very o/c'able at all whereas the 7900GS (which is usually much cheaper) is a superb o/c'er and stands to exceed 7900GT performance despite the pipeline deficit. So long as you can live without HDR+AA the 7900GS has the sweetest price-perf in my book. If you don't want to gamble or void your warranty by o/c'ing then the X1950Pro is the sweetest. If you can afford £250ish you might as well plump down the extra £50 for an 8800GTS which are in a league of their own.

 

An extra £50? And the rest ...

X1950Pro/7900GS ~ £130
8800GTS ~ £300.

That's 2.5x more....

 

If you can afford £250 you might as well spend the extra £50 for 8800GTS ... £250+£50=£300.

Dabs:
£90 7600GT
£105 7900GS
£130 X1950Pro
£180 7950GT
£295 X1950XTX
£300 8800GTS

 

So how doe sthe x1950 XT compare?

Also, does the OEM brand matter? EG Powercolor, Connect3d or whatever?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HT
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-063-CO

Is the Pro better than the XT overall, given the price and power consumption? Or is it worth accepting the extra load and few extra quid for the XT's gain (whatever that is)?

I have about £150-£170 to play with.. don't really want much more till Vista is out (and Crysis). Currently using.. an FX5200 so ANYTHING over £10 will be an upgrade! Yea recommend what you think - I was going to go for the Pro but is the XT worth grabbing instead?

 

well anyway i bought an x1900xt in the end lol, as cn be seen in my sig.. and no i couldnt afford the extra for a 8800gts as i had to stretch a bit to get this. it is however a massive improvement over what i was capable of with the x1800xt so im happy.

to the above poster, a x1950xt is a pretty great card. its basically what i have but with faster memory. if i had seen one of those i would have jumped on it

 

Ya but Connect 3d - does that matter? And the other is like, overclocked and has mad hax cooling or whatever. Go for the XT for sure, regardless of OEM and other stuff?

 

both my current and previous ati's have been connect3d. you may not of heard off them as they only sell ati stuff but they are one of the biggest sellers of ati graphics cards.

also if you want to overclock dont get the pro, you cant adjust voltages in software, and you cant voltmod them due to poor quality voltage controllers. i say this with an xt that doesnt want to overclock even with volt increases so its not an absolute by any means