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News Intel announces 16 new 45nm CPUs at CES

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  1. Tim S

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    Tim S, 7 Jan 2008
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    oasked Stuck in (better) mud

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    Shame the Q9300 doesn't have 12mb of cache. I hope the quads are affordable, but I would imagine that its unlikely without any competition from AMD. :(
     
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  3. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    Those Xeon prices combined with the imminent update to the Mac Pro are making me salivate.
     
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    Q1 for the quads? Crap, I was really hoping they would be coming out this month. I need to build my new comp!
     
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  5. 500mph

    500mph The Right man in the Wrong place

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    Q1 2007?
     
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  6. MaximumShow

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    The new penryns are just THAT fast.
     
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  7. Redbeaver

    Redbeaver The Other Red Meat

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    seems like Q9540 will be the next Q6600.... we'll just have to see the overclockability ;)
     
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  8. Dreaming

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    Apparently according to hexus the price will be aroud £150 for the Q9450. Bout £25 less for the Q9300.

    I want, but can't justify the spend :(. Next upgrade will be later this year with some new graphics. There's nothing out there that is really benchmarked by cpu performance, but it's good intel is still pushing new processors out. No doubt to try to stay 2 steps ahead of AMD? They were all due for a january release but I heard a rumour somewhere that due to the 'economic realities' they'd been pushed back a tiny bit to febuary / march (economic realities: q6600 g0 still selling like hot cakes and still the best on the market by a long way, why would they beat their own product?). That was just a rumour but it seems to have a grain of truth if the new quad core processors aren't due for a january release yet every other 45nm cpu is. Perhaps it takes a bit longer to make the extra 2 cores, eh intel? :p

    edit: those prices are the bulk-buy price for resellers, my apologies. I don't know how much mark up is typical.
     
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  9. sotu1

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    wow is it CES time already again!? that was quick!
     
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  10. Tim S

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    thanks, typing fast+lack of sleep = occasional typo :thumb:
     
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    Intel's price points rarely change - it just moves models down the range when faster ones become available.

    Look at the price points in one of our previous CPU reviews and then go check those products' prices online - that'll be a rough guide as to how much they'll cost once they're available. I'm guessing the Q9450 will hit a similar price point to the Q6600 and the Q9550 will hit a similar price point to the Q6700. :)
     
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    which will be better, the QX9650 or the Q9550? I'm building a new desktop soon so I need to know and wtf happened to the QX9770 being released?
     
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    Well the QX9650 is a bit faster (3GHz vs 2.83) and has an unlocked multiplier so technically it is "better" but it's also likely to be way more expensive and probably not proportionally to the benefits.

    Re: QX9770 - who cares? No-one is going to buy the damn thing are they? It's just an Intel e-peen chip.
     
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  14. mclean007

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    should be E8190
     
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  15. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    ouch, the sweet spot with 12mb cache is too expensive.....

    i'll wait for a refresher product, cheaper price and then upgrade.
     
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    Doesn't Mac Pro uses 5000 Series LGA771 CPUs?
     
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    im considering the QX9770
     
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    E8400 seems to be a new bang-for-the-buck for those on shoestring budget. Coupled with 8800GT would make a nice budget gaming rig.
     
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    -------------------------THIS-------IS--------THE------DEFINITIVE ANSWER----------------- ON -------THIS--------SUBJECT
    Hi. Abouth the AGP bus bottleneck. I am inclined to believe its a myth put forward by those that need you to continue to spend money on new parts. this really sucks if you have a budget, and want full settings in games. The Bandwidth for AGP is 2.1 GB per second; unilaterally. So with this assumption the AGP would bottleneck a game with 512 MB textures like Quake 4 at 4 frames a second.

    512MB+512MB+512MB+512MB=2 GB

    this is simply not the case. I run AMD 4200+, 2GB DDRII 667, -----------------512 MB Radeon 1950 pro AGP 8x---------------
    I get 4790 3dmarks in 3dmark 06, 60-100 FPS in Battlefield 2142 at supermax settings, 50-85 FPS in Team Fortress 2 Supermax settings, and UT3 is georgeous at 45 FPS 2 notches below all high detail. I push WAY MORE than 2.1 GB a second on this old 8x Bus. The biggest performance boost is RAM amount, and your processor power. pair this new AGP card with 2-4 GB of ram, and a 6000+ series intel or AMD chip and youve got a low budget monster killer on your hands that will run anything you throw its way; SUPERMAX.
    and
     
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  20. lectrician

    lectrician What's a Dremel?

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    sorry, somehow the thread was changed, that was for the new 3850 or somesouch 8x AGP card
    sapphire is releasing with ATI's new chipset.
     
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