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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Arboreal, 11 Jun 2016.

  1. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge. Software Dev @ Corsair Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Before I joined bit I was fully on the "watercooling is great, watercool all the things". After getting some more experience you really can't beat noctua. The only cooler I'll ever purchase is noctua and even when we're getting free stuff I always request noctua over the best AIOs I get offered. Most other products if i see something odd I'll most likely be able to see where they've cut costs and a better way of doing things. With noctua I can't, I have full faith everything is right. Marketing doesn't buy that.
     
  2. David

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    AIOs made us lazy.

    If you were chasing performance for daily driver, a full custom loop was the way to go (unless you had the money for a chiller, but then you get into that whole sub-abient, dewpoint situation and the inside of your rig starts to look like a central heating installation).

    Then you could just strap on an AIO and get 90% of the benefit for none of the hassle. Until those cheapo pump blocks started disintegrating. You know, I never had a pump fail on me in all the years I ran full loops? Probably because you can buy an AIO for less than the price of a decent pump.

    Then you get to the more modern Core iterations that just didn't have the kind of heat density found in your older i7s, and you can get by with a decent HSF. So the AIO makers, desperate to stay relevant, have to turn up the volume... RG ****ing B, yay.

    Then along comes Ryzen and twats Intel right in the nads and, before you know it, we're on the verge of a core count war.

    Here comes the heat. Full loops will be back on the menu, alongside some ****ing hideously monstrous AIO efforts, in an effort to stay relevant.
     
  3. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge. Software Dev @ Corsair Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    My current idea is a custom itx case made from acrylic with a new fancy ryzen 3rd gen processor i know are out in ____ along with either my current GPU or another one I can find with a noctua cooler. With the use of the riser I should be able to get a very small rig.
     
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  4. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    That gap appears to be 4 underscores so June or July, then?
     
  5. David

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    Could be Sept
     
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  6. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    July is the rumour. Some even say 7/7 for 7nm but that's a Sunday so doubtful.

    Mind you with recent BIOS update references to Valhalla who knows what it'll be called and when it will be released.

    I'll be on the Zen2, perhaps ITX in my mATX case - not sure I can keep collecting cases as I keep downsizing :)
     
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  7. Arboreal

    Arboreal Keeper of the Electric Currants

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    I can sympathise there.... I currently have the following cases at home that are 'retired':
    Prototype Parvum ITX
    Silverstone SG13
    another nameless ITX case
    cut down mATX beige case, currently home to a FrankenPC that isn't getting finished any time soon

    Fortunately, I have just repurposed my old Silverstone TJ08 into a gamer for a friend's son with a Haswell mATX kit cobbled together from stuff in stock, so that's one down...

    I can't stop looking at upcoming SFF cases on SFF Network, as the in progress DanCase C4 SFX and NCase(?) SidearmD are both very intriguing at the just over 10 litres mark.
     
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  8. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I'm trying to work out what to do with the Antec P183 I have in the loft. I'm tempted to put a toilet in it and rent it out.
     
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  9. David

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    I own one ATX compatible case - a 4U server case. I have two mATX cases - a Parvum and a TJ08-E.

    ITX cases:
    Two EVGA Hadrons
    250D
    SG07
    IW-MS04
    Core 500
    Evolv shift

    And my Ncase M1

    I have a problem.
     
  10. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Yup, you best get that checked out.
     
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  11. Arboreal

    Arboreal Keeper of the Electric Currants

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    Two Hadrons can be OK, so long as they don't collide....

    David, you haven't said how many of these case are in use, if they are that's not the same problem as having them hanging round retired.
    So, you do a bit of Silverstone too then? I can give up any time (apparently)... IIRC you bought an SG07 from me, so I can part with them when necessary

    Cases currently in use at home:
    Silverstone SG05
    Silverstone SG06
    Silverstone TJ08-E
    HP mATX desktop tower
    NCase M1
     
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  12. David

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    The 250D isnt long for this life, unless it sells. Frikkin hateful, plasticky piece of trash, IMO.
     
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  13. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    We need to have a talk about your selling tactics.
     
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  14. Arboreal

    Arboreal Keeper of the Electric Currants

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    You've been spoiled by all that aluminium in your M1! It's looking good in your pics. I must post mine sometime, having taken some passable photos first...
     
  15. Omnislip

    Omnislip Minimodder

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    Every day I flip between "I should definitely get an nCase M1" to "The Louqe Ghost S1 is much better".

    Did any of you think about this comparison before? Any useful advice? Cheers.
     
  16. David

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    I bounced between the M1 and the DA2, but the M1 won out on availability and being smaller. I think the Ghost is closer to the Dan A4 than the M1 on size?
     
  17. Arboreal

    Arboreal Keeper of the Electric Currants

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    My understanding is that the Ghost is smaller too. My concern is not the concept or design, but the fact that the funding and supply strategy has been so flakey and lacking in communication with customers.
    The Top Hat system may be a good idea, but for me it was potentially too fragile for a weekly trip to LAN night.

    OK, so the M1 has been eclipsed in 'smallness' and maybe style, and although it's been out 7(?) years, it is still an outstanding product.

    I had no intention of buying one, as I have been waiting for the glacially slow development of the Dan Case C4 SFX, but bought a fairly well used one here on the MP, as my SG13 wasn't doing what I wanted.
    The M1's quality is undeniable and it's a massively well thought out and compact design which has stood the test of time in a rapidly developing market without a major revision in it's overall design and features.
    /2p
     
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  18. bawjaws

    bawjaws Multimodder

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    Aye, the M1 might not be the absolute smallest enclosure out there, but it packs a hell of a lot into its 12.6l :) In terms of style I actually think it looks really good, but of course that's very much a personal thing. My favourite thing about the M1 is how well-thought out it really is, there are just lots of little neat touches that make working with it a pleasure rather than a chore. And you can pack a lot of stuff into it.
     
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  19. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    They were late (Kickstarter, so as expected), but as far as I am aware all that were slated to be delivered have been.
    While the build itself is on the backburner, the case itself is stiff enough even without the side panels slotted into the extrusion (the baseplate and the top platform being screwed in prevents the 'H' extrusion spine flexing).
     
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  20. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge. Software Dev @ Corsair Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Hadn't heard of this case. After having a look maybe I won't build it myself
     

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