I went to my local computer store and they were selling motherboards with the processor chips soldered on and I spoke to the guy who runs the store and he told me that the processors involved were 2.2 Ghz processors overclocked by the manufactors to 3.1 Ghz and that he had only just got them in which is true as I know the guy at the store and he's not to bad so i fork over £100.00 and get one seeing as my system had totally died the week before. I get it home install it and boot it on the post screen it says pro3100+ so i think cool then it boots it to windows which says that its a 1.67 Ghz chip so I thin k maybe windows is screwy so I downloaded wcpuid which gave me the following info Processor #1 : AMD Athlon XP (Model 8) / 028FBC18 Platform : Socket A (Socket 462) Vendor String : AuthenticAMD CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0) Family : 6 (7) Model : 8 (8) Stepping ID : 1 (1) Brand ID : - (-) APIC : ---- HT Log.CPU Cnt : ---- Name String : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ Internal Clock : 1666.72 MHz System Bus : 266.68 MHz DDR System Clock : 133.34 MHz Multiplier : 12.5 L1 I-Cache : 64K Byte L1 D-Cache : 64K Byte L1 T-Cache : ---- L1 Cache : ---- L2 Cache : 256K Byte L2 Speed : 1666.72 MHz (Full) MMX Unit : Supported SSE Unit : Supported SSE2 Unit : Not Supported SSE3 Unit : Not Supported MMX2 Unit : Supported 3DNow! Unit : Supported 3DNow!+ Unit : Supported Host Bridge : 1106:3116.00 [VIA Apollo P/KM266] South Bridge : 1106:3177.00 [VIA VT8233A] VGA Device : 10DE:0181.A2 [NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X] Memory Size : 512M Byte Memory Clock : ---- now if its what i think it is and thats a plain unclocked Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ the its going back and I'm getting a refund one way or another as the same shop sells a better motherboard and a Athlon(tm) XP 2600+ for £90.00 but maybe its me going wrong just after getting some more info the board is a PCCHIPS K7 FSB266 Motherboard model M825 if thats any help.
These seem to be popping up all over the place, they are basically jsut given a new name. Doubt its worth over 100 quid to be honest, so i'd say you've been ripped off.
Found some guff on Aria's site about it - apparently its an integrated Duron processor, marked as 3000+ but running closer to 1.7 GHz. There seem to be a couple of models in the range, with or without integrated graphics, both retailing around 70-odd pounds each. My own experience with PCChips boards has been less than pleasant, and this particular one seems to have a horribly outdated chipset and bios. You could get a lot better for £100 - an NF7-S and an AthlonXP chip for instance.
I've aready decided that its going back tomorrow one way or another way I figure it because he told me it had a 2.2 GHZ processor clocked to 3.1 Ghz and the fact that it is'nt he sold it under false pretences and is legally obliged to change it (it should'nt come to that he is normally a stright guy who sells what he knows looks like he might have been taken in as well)
Get a refund, I wouldn't buy from him again. If you do get a new processor, though, don't get a Duron, and definitely don't get a PCChips board. You can get a 2100+/generic motherboard for pretty cheap, and it will last you a while with a good HSF. ~Chrizzle
bring it back to the shop and say you got ripped off. get a REAL 3200+. selling overclocked, or miss marketed (saying its a faster speed when its not) is illegal.
So, how long has Miss Marketed been single? Anywayz, if you're in to OCing, I'd recommend the 2500-M over the 3200+. It overclocks to be much faster than the 3200+, and if you know what you're doing, you can get the FSB from 266 to 400. I don't own one, but a friend of mine does and says it OCs like a dream. ~Chrizzle
Yes a rip off, on two counts. 1st He sold you a PC Chips mobo, arrrghhhhhhhhh 2nd He lied about the processor specs, or just plain didnt know them himself (not the first time I've been in a computer store and they know nothing about computers) No AMD chip will currently clock to 3Ghz without phase change cooling. Go out and buy an Abit NF7-S and an AMD Mobile Athlon 2500. You will be pleased.
ok I just rung him first he tried to tell me that wcipid would not and would never be able to give an accurate reading then i told him that i had been to the pcchips website and found that the pr03100a+ is just they name so he said umm ahhh huh in that order and i know he has some amd athlon xp2600+ processors in so he agreed to exchange the pc chips mobo for that and one of the asus motherboards he has in which means that later to day i'll have a 2 ghz plus processor with a mobo that will take all three of my ddr memory chips and ill also be ten quid richer and to put it bluntly the best part is i'll be rid of this piece of crap mobo
It all depends on which XP2600 you get Tbred 266 1700+ 11.0 X 133 1470MHz "DLT 1.50V 44.9W" "DUT 1.60V ????W" 1800+ 11.5 X 133 1530MHz "DLT 1.50V 46.3W" "DUT 1.60V ????W" 2000+ 12.5 X 133 1670MHz 1.60V 54.7W 2100+ 13.0 X 133 1730MHz 1.60V 55.9W 2200+ 13.5 X 133 1830MHz 1.60V 57.0W 2400+ 15.0 X 133 2000MHz 1.65V 62.0W 2600+ 16.0 X 133 2133MHz 1.65V 64.0W Tbred B 333 2600+ 12.5 X 166 2075MHz 1.65V 64.0W 2700+ 13.0 X 166 2160MHz 1.65V 64.0W Barton 333 2500+ 11.0 X 166 1830MHz 1.65V 53.7W 2600+ 11.5 x 166 1920MHz 1.65V 54.3W 2800+ 12.5 X 166 2080MHz 1.65V 55.9W 3000+ 13.0 X 166 2160MHz 1.65V 58.4W Barton 400 3200+ 11.0 X 200 2200MHz 1.65V 58.4W
He did and didn't rip you off, these soldered on chips to boards have been around for a few years, but they were durons i.e a 1300mhz called a 2000+ PRO god only knows what they are called now. They are cheap stuff that will probably only keep your granny happy but little joe who wants to play games on them will not be happy. I also have to say you are naive in expecting to pay £100 for a mobo and 2.2GHz @ 3.1GHZ. Most people tend to run if a cpu is overclocked by a manufacturer with good reason unless your buying from a company with a rep in this field.
@Chrizzle:Is a 2500-M Processor an Athlon "Mobile" Processor? And are the "Mobile" line of procs also called Athlon-MP? I've seen these on newegg and wasn't sure if these were the ones everyone's been talking about, but their prices are nice and I did hear that they overclock to amazing speeds (eg: a 2500-M gets to 2.7 with ease, or so i've heard). If this is not the case, and the proc i'm talking about isn't mobile, can you please point me in the direction of a 2500-M proc, and tell me what would be an ideal O'C mobo for it? Thanks @The guy that got ripped: Yeah bro, good thing you're gettin the exchange Did you find out if the guy had even known what the chip was? Or was he in the same position as you, but bought bulk and could not return them in the 7-day warranty period (which is normally how long it takes to ship )? Sorry bout the temporary loss, all will soon be well . -Rob
MP is not the same as M, the MP chips are (were..) the multi processor version of the XP, for dual cpu setups.
a Athlon-MP is designed as a dual cpu, like a opteron, or a xeon. you want a Athlon Mobile the DFI LanParty NFII Ultra-B and DFI NFII Ultra Infinity are meant to be the best socket a overclocking boards, not as easy to overclock as some mobos though, lots of settings, and can change everything which is good if you know what your doing, for some nice easy overclocking get a Abit NF7-S v2.0 nForce2
Okay, but no one has yet to tell me where to pick up an Athlon Mobile But thanks for distinguishing between those two, would have been a shame if I bought a multi-processor proc and not known it . So yeah, a site with an Athlon-Mobile would be helpful . -Rob
I wouldnt recomend a DFI to a relative n00b overclocker (no offence meant). They can be flakey at best, dead at worst. The NF7-S is a much more stable mobo and will offer an exellent overclock, yes the DFI will offer a higher FSB due to the increase VDIMM, but on this occation I'd recomend the Abit.
I highly recommend Newegg.com. Their 2500-M is unlocked and really fun to overclock. It runs about 75 to 85 dollars too. It will plug into socket A motherboards. Edit: I've been very happy with my Gigabyte LN400 Pro 2. Ir had a couple problems when it came, but not something that anybody couldn't fix. After a couple tweaks, it overclocked like a dream. ~Chrizzle
