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Evil ISP...

Discussion in 'General' started by bHawk, 28 Jul 2004.

  1. bHawk

    bHawk What's a Dremel?

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    My family recently switched our ISP to verizon DSL. The evil verizon isp have blocked all incoming ports! I used to be the only one out of my group of friends with a router capable of port forwarding so Id be the one hosting our games of warcraft 3 or half life or any game for that matter. I even liked to use a remote admin program on my comp so I could mess around with my computer from school, but it seems verizon forces a firewall on all its users. Seems rather evil I think. Anyone else think hey its my bandwidth, Im paying for it, I should be able to use it for what I want...

    Meh, I doubt its possible, but if anyone knows of a work around, id be very happy, specially since remote admin was truely useful to me...
     
  2. [cibyr]

    [cibyr] Sometimes posts here

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    If verizon have a "toolbox" or an options page or something there might be a way to turn off port blocking (I know its optional for my ISP, to try and stop the spread of viruses but let experienced users do what they want). If there's nothing in their SFOA/AUP about not being able to access your computer from the internet, a call to their help staff will probably get remote admin working, but don't ask about hosting games because there will almost certainly be a clause against running servers.

    If all that fails, turn on logging in your personal firewall, set your router's DMZ to your machine and port scan it (nmap is a good port scanner, google for it). If you find any open ports you should be able to setup a tunnel through that port.
     
  3. Morphine

    Morphine weeee!

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    My ISP also blocks pretty much every port for my internet. I accidentally said the s-word (server) and the customer service rep went into a long speach about how running servers eats up bandwidth and will tie up the network for my entire neighborhood. Fools seems to think a simple game of counter-strike will be the equivalent of running google from my basement.
     
  4. mookie

    mookie very nawty<br><img src="http://mookie.org/i/avatar

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    Little does my ISP know I actually am running google from my basement...
     
  5. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    You cant be serious? Tell them they should provide a better infrastructure and its not their problem what you use it for as long as you pay for the connection and its not illegal. Id do my nut if they told me that - complain that they should be doing their job properly and providing a PROPER service. If they cant handle people actually USING the bandwidth they offer then they are doing something wrong.

    I hope that NEVER happens in the UK, otherwise im changing isps and phoning oftel.
     
  6. Morphine

    Morphine weeee!

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    my ISP is crap, buts its all ive got out where i live.

    I bought a 3meg DL / 192K UL connection but nevery gone over my average 1.3meg DL 64K UL. Thing is, the node im on is only at 12% load.... methinks they are BSing me about their speeds.
     
  7. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    One day BT might decide to be kind enough to upgrade my local exchange :grr:

    Until then I can moan about people moaning about broadband :p
     
  8. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    And i can laugh at people without the phat pipe :p
     
  9. Herbicide

    Herbicide Lurktacular

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    Must...have...broadband....need....bandwidth...
    56k sucks, this session I connected at 40k, sometimes I will connect at 26k, or as high as 46k (very rare).
     
  10. ou7blaze

    ou7blaze sensational.

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    /me strokes his 1.5megabit broadband connection :hip:
     
  11. Bruno_me

    Bruno_me Fake-ad‎min

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    /me hugs his 1.5/1Mb/s service :hip:

    /me also makes a note that his isp really doesn't give a damn what he does

    /me hugs cisco dsl modem

    I'm sorry, just had to do that :p
     
  12. Froggy

    Froggy What's a Dremel?

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    How do you find out the node load? ive been wanting to check my ISP for ages.
     
  13. bHawk

    bHawk What's a Dremel?

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    After a little investigating, it seems the DSL modem is where the ports are blocked. If i bought a third party DSL modem, it would probably fix my problem, but Im not sure if that would violate any agreements. My other concern is that if I do use another modem, what are the chances that my isp would detect me running servers (nothing big, just the occasional game server, and maybe a p2p program) and cancel my service?

    Ive yet to do a full port scan, so maybe it wont come to that and ill find maybe one open port.
     
  14. Bruno_me

    Bruno_me Fake-ad‎min

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    139 or 445 :hehe:
     
  15. Pygo

    Pygo Rick Relixed

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    Oh god.. that would be hilarious.

    But the chances of them knowing what you are doing is pretty high. I know, I work at my ISP (and so, I get my internet for free, dialup, but free :) ) Anyways, we have a box dedicated to checking what kind of ports are being used and how much from what ips/subnets and what not. We use ethereal on it to do that. and for those who don't know what ethereal can do, it has the power to tell you all the data in the captured packets. so, to make it simple, we can read and view msn convos, get email passwords, etc. and no, we don't just do that. Only use it to try and catch the latest viruses like sasser and mydoom.
    Also, when I had cable, they had a bandwidth manager that was based on your ip/mac address. I got around that easily by changing my mac on the router and then relasing the ip address. bam.. from 6 gigs (their max) back down to zero. That was over a year ago, and assure you my surfing habbits have changed. the only thing I downloaded using p2p software was slackware 10.0 and slax.
     
  16. Bruno_me

    Bruno_me Fake-ad‎min

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    ethereal is the leet, but it'll only do tcp streams, but just data in individual udp packets, not an entire stream, so it's harder to get lots of data from a udp stream ;)

    anyways, here's a tcp stream I just captured
    [/channel-pimp]

    blue is what I sent to the server and red is what the server sent to me

    I could do nmap, but I don't really feel like it :p
     
  17. Morphine

    Morphine weeee!

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    I asked for a supervisor :rock: I love being the annoying customer that calls every week because of packet loss screwing me over in CS. So far I've gotten them to give me a new modem for free and run a seperate cable line to my house dedicated to internet to stop noise from TVs interfering with my signal.
     
  18. ConKbot of Doom

    ConKbot of Doom What's a Dremel?

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    Thats great :hehe: just be careful that they dont blacklist ya.

    I love my ISP (www.toast.net) I can get like 5.3K/s average (according to Netstat Live) when using DAP or teleport pro (saving copies of pages of web sites). Granted I would love broadband a LOT more, but 5.3K/s is not too bad for dial-up.
     
  19. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    My cable broadband provider is usually 2-3mbit. Cox HSI. They seem pretty good. I download a lot and haven't got in trouble yet ;). But everytime I loose service and call them up, they insist I remove my router and plug my PC directly into the modem and see if that works.....but it never does. :p
     

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