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Graphics Help me decide between 9800GX2, GTX280, GTX460?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Magpie, 16 Aug 2010.

  1. Magpie

    Magpie All this Metal... All this mess.

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    Greetings everyone :) May I ask for some opinions on these graphics cards to help me decide which will provide a great gaming experience and still be performing well in a few years time.

    I had been all set to buy an EVGA 9800 GX2 1GB, as it ranked very highly on a graphics card hierarchy chart but wasn't as expensive as the others on that level. I can get one for about £110

    Then I got distracted / tempted... by an EVGA 280 SuperClocked 1GB card (costing around £135) and as i read some of the threads here I discovered that a good number of you love the Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB (costing about £177).

    I had never set a budget for the graphics card as the whole computing industry has advanced very much since I kept up with things. I've spent the longest time using a 32MB AGP card on a Pentium 4. I am sorely tempted by the GTX 460 as it looks to be a very recent card that would still be able to keep up after a few years, but the cost is uncomfortable compared to the 9800 GX2.

    I would definitely appreciate someone giving me an idea of the difference in feel between these cards, or even just telling me "9800 GX2 won't run many current games".

    I'd like to experience games such as Crysis, Modern Warfare, Starcraft II, GTA IV and some of the titles currently out that I don't know about yet. I want to edit videos, render average 3D models and panoramic images.

    In case it matters the computer spec will be:
    Quad core 9300
    4GB Ram
    1000W PSU (overkill but came with the case)
    running through an Asus Striker II Extreme motherboard (which I think can handle any of the cards)

    In the near future I would want to run a 24inch monitor but currently will be on a 17.

    Thank you ^^
     
  2. kameltoemunch

    kameltoemunch What's a Dremel?

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    Are you set on sticking with Nvidia? At the moment ATI offers the best bang for your buck.

    I recently bought a Sapphire HD 5770 after my 8800 GT died after a year and half and I am absolutely loving it. Whereas my 8800 would run at 90+ degrees celcius under load, my 5770 tops out at 65 degrees while running much quieter and performing far better. I never had a desire to switch to ATI before, but I am completely satisfied having done so. If you want to spend the money take a look at the 5870.

    You definitely will want to purchase a more powerful card than the 9800 GX2 to drive a 24 inch monitor at 1920 x 1200 or above though.
     
  3. Andy Mc

    Andy Mc Modder

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    I replaced my 9800gx2 with a 768mb gtx460 and have got better performance than when the gx2 was working.
     
  4. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    GTX460, HD5850 or HD5870 seem like the best choices ATM. You'd have to get the last-gen GTX280 dirt cheap for it to make much sense. The 9800GX2 isn't even in the same league as the two others.
     
  5. Sh0cKeR

    Sh0cKeR a=2(s-ut)/t²

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    With SLI supporting games, the 9800GX2 is generally faster than the GTX 280, but it was only a filler gap until the 280 arrived. Both cards use the older fabrication process and as such, are more power hungry and slower than more recent 200 series cards. The best choice is to buy the 1Gb GTX 460 as its more efficient, has greater performance, supports Dx11, and most importantly isn't obsolete.
     
  6. xaser04

    xaser04 Ba Ba Ba BANANA!

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    How about the more modest (cost wise) sub £150 768mb GTX 460?

    Performance is on a par (or better than) the GTX280 and it will consume less power, be quieter running and generate less heat.

    Personally I would avoid the 9800GX2. It isn't a bad card per-se, it's just the 512mb of vram (remember its SLI n a stick) will be a major restriction relative to its performance.
     
  7. memeroot

    memeroot aged and experianced

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    I have a 9800 gx2 and it runs all games on max (1080p) i5 750 @ 4
    however there is no upgrade path with this card in truth

    a 460 overclocked will give you the performance you need now and 6 months down the line a hundred quid upgrade path with sli
     
  8. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    The 9800GX2 is the card I regret the most buying ><
     
  9. roosauce

    roosauce Looking for xmas projects??

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    I also vote the 460. The 9800 GX2 is just far too old and you would be reliant on SLI driver support to be continued for modern games. The 280 is still a decent card, but I would only consider it if I already had one and I needed a boost (via 'SLI) for not much cash.

    The 1GB is worth the money over the cheaper model - it's not just the RAM amount, also this card has a wider memory bus and therefore better memory bandwidth. That will be important on the 24-inch.

    The 460 is a solid, modern, dx11 choice. They scale very very well in SLI so there is a decent upgrade later.
     
  10. Guest-44432

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    Agree, I went from the 9800gtx to a GX2 to find most games didn't run any faster than my 9800gtx (I think Crysis was the only gain I got).
    I then went to a BFG 280gtx oc which was faster than the 9800GX2 in most games.

    If you can hold fire for another couple of months, ATI should have their HD6000 series out by the end of Q3 so you should be able to pick up a cheap HD5000 series card for that amount of money.

    Simon.
     
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  11. nuc13ar

    nuc13ar What's a Dremel?

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    "Are you set on sticking with Nvidia? At the moment ATI offers the best bang for your buck."

    except with GTA IV for sure. any nvidia card with at least ddr3 memory would be better, as GTA IV is more concerned with processor core usage.
     
  12. nickolay

    nickolay What's a Dremel?

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    hi, i have same problem as you, in deciding which one to get but for me is 2xgfx460 or 1 hd5870 :(
    i have nearly same system as you at home. and i thought wth i get new one. so now i'm deciding still which one to get. but for you i would go for 460 :)
     
  13. mrbens

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    2x 460 1GB SLi kicks the 5870s ass but is obviously more expensive. [Scan: 2x 460 1GB £168x2 = £334] [Novatech: 1x 5870= £275]

    To the OP I recommend buying a 1GB 460 now and then another in a few months if the prices go down.

    There are good performance benchmarks in this review: http://www.techspot.com/review/309-geforce-gtx-460-sli-performance/

    [​IMG]

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  14. lamboman

    lamboman What's a Dremel?

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    GTX460 without question in my opinion. Slightly faster than the GTX280 generally (we'll call it the same just to be fair). However, it's an absolute monster when it comes to overclocking, and for that reason alone, it's worth it. You can find some of the 768MB models for around £150 or so, and at that price, it's a bargain.

    And, as you can see from the charts posted by mrbens, the scaling is absolutely incredible in comparison to some of the other models out there (5870, for example).

    Getting a second card when they become cheaper later in the year is also a good idea.
     
  15. Ph4ZeD

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  16. lamboman

    lamboman What's a Dremel?

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    I'd actually go against this, and upgrade to the GTX460 SLI setup in the future. Reason being that the 5870 peformance is far above the GTX460, but when you run two cards, the scaling is far better than the 5870 Crossfire setup, to the point where the performance is closer than you'd think (again, mrbens' charts show this perfectly).
     
  17. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Oh I wasn't recommending the 5870, just pointing out it can be found pretty cheap. I like my SLI setup but it has its disadvantages. Loud, higher temps, and the second card sits over everything so changing a hard drive or rerouting cables is a bit of a nightmare. But bang for buck dual 460s is pretty much the best out there.
     
  18. mrbens

    mrbens What's a Dremel?

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    Another set of graphs here to show off the 460 in SLI: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_460_SLI

    [​IMG]

    I'm very exited as I've got a 1GB 460 with waterblock arriving on tuesday :D
     
  19. frontline

    frontline Punish Your Machine

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    Personally, i'd wait a couple of months until prices on the current generation of cards get a significant shakeup (hopefully). At least i'd delay buying anything more expensive than a GTX460.

    Especially if this turns out not to be fake:

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