Right o, first off i'll introduce myself. Just call me goose, its easier, im a novice comp builder, ive built 5 now but all the standard stuff, im not into all the modding for one reason, i dont know that the hell im doin, lol. Anyway, next year is my year in industry, a year out in the middle of uni basically, but i get paid and by hen, my lovely comp will need a re-build, im starting again though, from scratch Ive got a budget of £3000 and that includes a new monitor, 17" tft, samsung probss, so lets say ive got £2000 for the comp. This is what i want from it. A big solid case that looks nice but isnt acrylic, i want it to be cool but quiet, liquid cooling is a no no coz i have to take it back on from uni alot when im there! and vapo chill seems expensive seeing as im not goin to over clock. System performance, well, gotta be fast, i dont know what everyone thinks of dual processors, but erm, around 2gb of ram, i dont want to have to upgrade for a while. oh yeh and about 500-750gb of hard disk space. Right, i know a bit about all the hardware thats out there but im not a tech head (unfortuneately, i am trying though) i want some experience on my side and some recomendations. I know thats alot of I wants, thing is, i know what i want but im not sure how best to go about it. So, any ideas hit me with them it will be greatly apprieciated!!! Cheers all Goose
Hi mate, welcome to bit-tech.net I'm going to move this to the hardware section where it'll get the attention it needs
Erm 17" monitor will not cost you £1000, more like £300, and by the time you upgrade, they will be alot cheaper, as LCD's prices are dropping fast... And your asking about what you should buy almost a year in advance, by then everything will be new, and no one really knows the pricing, but £2000 on the box if your not looking at extreme cooling will still get you literally the best stuff on the market at the time... All the stuff thats top of the range now that we could tell you about, will just be middle range in the next year when you upgrade, and you can easily afford the top notch stuff with that budget P.S Welcome to bit-tech - M@
Lol thats true, ok EVERYONE tell me what i could buy now then, so i have a kinda idea of what i could get, and thanks, i found the page 2 days ago, i think im in heaven here!! Oh yeh and i think the bit i have the most trouble with is finding a decent case!! lol OOOOO and ye another edit to this not, some one please explain to me what a raid array is, im curious and tempted!! Goose
no help for goose? My prob is i d otn know anything about the latest hardware coz i could never afford it, i neveer looked
When are you building this? Take a spec like mine, but swap the mobo for an asus p4c800 and a faster radeon.
I think you've been extremely excessive in a lot of your estimations. TFT - LG171/172B Graphics - Nvidia 6800GT, ATi x800pro. From early reports it looks like the nvidia performs better than the ati in doom 3, but drivers are immature. However you can overclock the nvidia GT to ultra levels whereas you are missing bits from the ATi pro which means itll never be as good as its bigger brother the XT-PE. Check around the graphics forum for similar threads about what people are buying. Case - its personal preference; fan sizes, how many, size of case, colour.. etc there's every kind of variation youll ever need from uber small shuttles to yy server cubes I like my cube - lots of 120mm fans = good cooling for low noise (or not "squeeky" from small fans). Other hardware - personally id go for an AMD A64 socket 939 setup, with some nice fast corsair twinx. A gig of ram will do you, youll still have 2 more slots for another gig if you feel you need it PSU - see recent reviews here Harddisk - i swear by seagates, however samsung spinpoints are also popular or a 10k rpm western digital raptor? which is probably noiser cause it spins faster (ive not had the privilege of owning one to compare). Best thing is look at as many reviews and read as many threads as possible.
Tagan/Antec/Cheiftec/Enermax 400watt or more psu. Hard disks: Go for the newer sata samsung spinpoints for bulk storage, skip the raptor for performance, do it properly with a nice quick scsi drive for the OS like mister_tad does
No point unless you want a PCI-E or 64bit PCI card in a 64bit slot so you have the bandwidth for SCSI. Both im assuming are expensive (mobo wise).. but then, SCSI is anyway
Maybe he's including tax in that £1000 so you can get as close as you can to £2000. Jesus, he won't even need £2000 even if he goes with top of the line parts, you lucky dog. I'll go see what I can piece together on newegg or something for ~$4000 (that's how much USD it is yeah?) -Rob
well i sugest a dual opteron shuttle with 78?gb raptor2 and the a radeon x800xt 2gb or more of ram a dvd burner, and with the rest get the case dipped it gold or platanum. or maybe give the money to a modgod and get an exclusive case zap or g-gnome or if u want a tower just replace the dual opteron with a fx-53 (or whatever comes after it)they make boards that can take up to 4gb of ram you know u have so much money to play with maybe get a bigger monitor or 3 look at enak's project log hes also a "big spender"
WOW cheers lads, ive got food for thought there (and then some!!!) Im thinking AMD 64's becuase i am an AMD man, those NVidia (sp??) SLI's looks good but i think maybe the ATI X8000 GT one, i know i can hear you crying out but its brand loyalty i guess, now, HDD's scsi (again sp?) confuses me, im gonna go with SATA probs, ive used maxtor in the 3 comps ive built so far but you recommend samsung, well i'm pleased with other samsung components i have so i will take you advice on that, granted everything is gonna be so much mroe advanced in a years time (again!!!!) I saw a very nice idea in the article about the modding contest when a guy had hinged two towers together, well i wouldnt paint mine, im just here for a top end performance PC, i like the idea, not the most portable but hey, good cooling prospects i thought, what im confused (yet another thing) is how can you have a DUAL psu's? and do other people think dual opteron's are wort it? Goose (thanks guys, i can be you project, lol )
Dual psus arent necessary, there's no point. Just buy a 500+W if you're worried about power. If you have a specific application for dual processors then get it, otherwise its a waste of money. Nvidia make the GTs, Ati make the Pros. If you want a h00ge case, check the bargin forum for the YYcube.
hmmmm i might just do that, i was thinkin id get two cases, identical, with removable mobo trays, hinge them at the back, then the left hand one can have the mobo, the right can have the drives and the rest can be full of fans, MUWAHAHAHAHA i could get it to hover on my desk, lol i think my little caption ive been given .:whats a dremmel:. is quite appropriate really, lol. Yeh i dont need dual processors, was kinda curious about it thats all, as i have said, budget computers that perform, im ya man, erm, anything thats good....i need the help with, i think ive come to the best place, and right, ATI is pro's, nVidia is GT's (goes and writes in note book). What i meant about dual PSU's is how do u get them both to work at the same time? Goose
