So games are only enjoyable if they come out quickly after being announced? So if ID hadn't announced Rage until now for instance, that would have magically made the game better? What a funny world you live in. As for the engine being out of date - maybe in some cases, but ID always deliver on certain things. Doom 3's big innovation was a unified lighting system, which to my knowledge most game engines still can't do. The Rage engine is all about unique texturing, which I'm pretty sure is a first.