Cooling The Ultimate Waterblock... T-REX 2 (56k warning)

it's quiet easy to answer to this question... with a dual bix you are going to have a colder water in the circuit but we've already said that water temperature doesn't influence the waterblock while it works with the TCcard on.having a bigger radiator allows you to give less power to the fans on it.

the comparative doesn't even have a sense to be made. the trex-2 will simply work at a lower temperature of every waterblock built by simple turning the trimmer on the TCcard ...
the wb (with TC on) keeps the coldplate temperature lower than air temperature (-2 <-> -10). it simply doesn't exist a waterblock that has better performace than this. eg: you buy a wb but the year after there is a new one that has a better performance of about 1°-2°...with the t-rex you don't need to buy a new because you simply have to turn the trimmer and you'll always have better performance
i hope you've understood what i mean

 

test @ 13V without TCcard...

coldplate and water temperature:


detail



as you can see there is ice forming (at maximum power with the TCcard disactivated) on the lower part of the copperplate... the trex2 will include a neoprene pre cut kit that will cover the copperplate and a small part of the plexi shell to avoid any possible condensation
the trex2 will be available from middle july and maybe a few day earlier

 

about the thermometers and probes we are using

a new kid in our labs:


comparison between the new one and my previous one used as reference(Delta Ohm HD8601P ). as you can see the data i've collected till now is more than reliable



"big" probe...


and small one...


MICROPROCESSOR THERMOMETER
MODEL HD 9117 http://www.deltaohm.com/uk/hd9117.html
Digital thermometer which can work with different types of probes with a Pt100 sensor with 4 direct wires or with the TP 870 series of probes with an amplified, linearised signal. Its typical use is in the field of refrigeration, heating and air conditioning, laboratory use, the food industry, agriculture, mechanical chemical and textile industries, research laboratories.
Principal characteristics:
liquid crystal display 31/2 digits, 12.5 mm high
storage of the maximum and minimum values
relative measurements
use of probes with Pt100 sensor (3 or 4 wires, 100W at 0°C)
accuracy in the field +25°C ±5°C:
from 0 to +199.9°C: ±0.1% of reading ±0.4°C ±1 digit;
from 200°C to full scale or from -0.1 to -200°C: ±0.2% of reading ±1°C ±1 digit
instrument working environment temperature: 0...+50°C
relative humidity: 0...90% no condensation
measuring range: -200...+800°C
resolution: 0.1°C in the range ±199.9°C, 1°C in the remaining range
auto power off after 8 minutes
automatic change of scale
dimensions: 215 x 73 x 38 mm
weight: 350 gr instrument alone

now you can say that our measurements are quiet correct

 

Yeah i understand, i just typed it and didnt re-read it to see if it made sense, which it doesnt it would still be good to see how your wb without the coldplate compares to the current top blocks. I'm sure you can still get the maze4 with a tec. Will the trimmer to adjust the temps be mounted on the retail product?

thx for the link for the gfx block i noticed it on your site earlier but there wasnt that many pics, there still isnt one of the clip/mounting brack when attached to the card is there? I was looking for a small 1/2" block for my 9800pro as the side panel on my new case(yeong yang cube) is very close to the agp card. Sadly i've just picked up an old maze3 with angled blocks that should solve this problem.

 

Woah Staffa, how much did that cost?

 

It's still not sold in the referred shop. Anyway, I was told about 140€...

 

the thermometer without the probes 250€...(special price 'cause we bought two of them..)

 

i really don't know how it's going to be sold...the designer of the trex2 and the one of the TCcard told us that they are going to make a big suprise so i can't really tell you these details..i'm waiting just like you the only thing i know is that it will be sold from the 15th of july or some days earlier...

the trex2 is expressly designed to work with the tec.we've made also got a normal waterblock which we used to compare the new results with.i'll post the graphics showing his performance soon.

the gfx block has a lexan mounting bracket included in the gfx price,i'll find a picture for you.

 

ThermoControlCard N° 001

here it is...




it takes about six hours to build one...

edit: i've forgot to say that the TCcard fits both standard pci and pci-xpress

 

lexan bracket for the gfx wb:


normal waterblock:
http://www.ybris-cooling.com/images/gallery/20/K9typ606.jpg
http://www.ybris-cooling.com/images/gallery/20/k93.jpg
http://www.pctuner.net/img_wb/Stealth_K/presentazione/rev3/k9typ009.jpg
http://www.pctuner.net/img_wb/Stealth_K/presentazione/rev3/k9typ026.jpg
tests:
http://www.pctuner.net/img_wb/Stealth_K/presentazione/portate_variabili.jpg
http://www.pctuner.net/img_wb/Stealth_K/presentazione/test a vcore variabili.jpg
All tests are @ 1833 MHz (1,65-2,0) except the last one @ 2525MHz

with a Seltz L30 the flow of the typhoon is 450 l/h

 

Thanks once again staffa, i was worried when you first said the clip was made of lexan as its usually rather thin stuff that rc bodyshells are made from, good for taking a hit an popping back but not strong enough for holding on a block Nice to see a chunky piece of perpsex/acryllic on there.

If my maze3 block doesnt do the job i may well have to order one of these from you, good to see one fitted to a radeon so it gives me a good idea for space on the card. The only hurdle left now would be to learn italian so i could place an order if needed

 

we've chosen that chunky piece after several test involving alu,plexi and other stuff...that, trust me, it's perfect!

we're working on the language problem... i believe that soon also the shop will be translated like they did for the waterblock specific site
i'll contact the boss to have some more information
i guess you would be the first non italian to buy a ybris waterblock and i would be very happy
i'll post more information asap

 

Dude I LOVE your blocks.
Specially the GFX block. It looks sweet.
I'd love to know how they hold up against dangerden's gpu blocks.

btw, is there going to be a peltier version of the gfx block?

NJ !

 

i believe that our blocks are better than others for price, performances, care during realization

i don't think there will be a peltier version although many people on our forum have put a peltier to achieve incredible scores on 3dmark

 

I was thinking of doing this with a compressor powered waterchiller. Not only would I NOT need anti-freeze it would keep it just above ambient. Not to mention plastic housings freezing and breaking.

So, on average I'd see what? 78F? I can live with that.


And with a huge resivour the AC would kick on in bigger gaps of time.


Only problem is I need a lab quality thermostat to calibrate the sensors. That is a little too rich for me. So I am sticking with straight water.

 

plastic breaking???
here you can see our typhoon waterblock @-190°... (right click, save object as)
http://melkizedek.altervista.org/typhon@ln2.wmv
the plexi resists

anty-freeze??? i remember you that the water passing through the waterblock is above ambient..
the coldplate with activated TCc sets its temperature from 0 to 10° less than ambient temperature.i don't get why we should need anti-freeze??

of course.

i agree

i'm sorry but we are upgrading the shop so we have to delay the official presentation of about a week

 

No I mean if you used a AC waterchiller the temp gets so low it can break plastic pumps over time. But with yours that isn't needed.

 

ok! sorry i've misunderstood

 

good to see a couple of pages on the shop site are now in english, just need to get some international shipping and payment options added so we can all buy something

 

I'd really love to buy the T-rex block.
But I don't understand a thing of the shopsite

Compatible with what kind of CPU's?