News Xbox One price cut to £399.99, with free copy of Titanfall

Show me one one available? As far as i can see the Xbox is now £399

Anyway, the system i spec'ed will not have the same life in games as the xbone, your right about that. but It will still have a good amount of years of happy gaming, and WILL in them years be cheaper to game on as the release games are much cheaper, even half the price in some cases.
Those savings can be used to upgrade the computer accordingly.

 

Available i asked... Thats is out of stock.. or never was.
that very well mite not get honoured.

 

I forgot i was not out yet as iv been playing the crappy thing in beta.
you wont be getting any graph im afraid, as i cba to download open office and install it just for this.

Also i have no idea how to construct a graph on how to show what im trying to put across. Nor do i see a point other than a free game.

 

Tremendous, yet another thread snarled up in a multiquote shitfest argument. Can we please create a subforum for Gareth to take on all comers in a gladiatorial battle to the death? Or at least create a new thread for each one of these interminable arguments?

Sorry to be a dick here, but these arguments are really dull, and almost always adopt a very confrontational tone from the outset. They generally don't add anything whatsoever to the original thread and nor do they add much to the board as a whole. Not picking exclusively on Gareth either, but these discussions do tend to involve him more often than not

 

PC with Titanfall
£427 + £23 [titanfall] = £450
Xbone with titanfall
£399

5 full price games.
Xbone = £45 x 5 = £225
PC = £30 x 5 = 150

PC total after 5 full price games [not including titanfall]:
£600
Xbone total after 5 full price games [not including titanfall]:
£624

PC would get a bigger lead than this as most games are cheaper than £30 on release but i used £30 as thats the most you would ever pay.

So PC is cheaper, and also considering PC has much more games, lots even free, this makes it much more attractive deal to go PC.

 

hmmmmm ok your right
But i dont think its a clean cut as console only gamers make out. PC gaming is not a rich mans gaming platform at all. It can be very cheap if you know how. console players seem to have this idea you need to drop like a grand on a computer for it to be any good which is not the case at all.

blu-ray software?
http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/

you dont need fancy software, just the drive.

 

Absolutely this is a discussion forum, and I'm not trying to stifle discussion - it's just that I think that these discussions would be better if they took place in separate threads, for a couple of reasons. They tend to distract from the original topic of the thread, and I think you'd get a greater degree of participation if they were hived off into their own threads. Just my tuppenceworth, of course, and I'm not trying to dictate to anyone.

It's also fine to highlight how much work you put into your original post, but I genuinely don't see the relevance of your comment that the work you put in was unpaid - I don't get paid for my posts here either Also, I don't think anyone was impugning your journalistic integrity, mainly because I don't treat your posts here as those of a journalist, but rather as those of another member of the community. It's a slightly different story if you're the author of the article in the OP and are making further posts that elaborate on that article, but that's not the case here.

Anyway, I've probably derailed this thread enough for now, and you and Otis have made up, so it's all good

 

It's always struck me as a bit futile to compare PC to console gaming costs. It's always compared as a complete buy in to each platform which really doesn't seem useful.

Many people already own PCs. The difference in cost between a home PC and gaming PC is far less. Likely less than buying a new console.

On the flip side, a person may intend to own a console anyway. They may want it for media features or Kinect or something. In which case, the cost of buying another game for an existing console is way less.

tl;dr PC gaming is cheaper for a PC gamer. Console gaming is cheaper for a console gamer.

 

I'm just going to say, I like it when Gareth goes 'ghetto baller' on people. It's a bit like being down the pub and getting into a lively discussion, but instead of punching and kicking to get his point across, he uses facts and links. Now I don't always entirely agree with where he is coming from, but he is nearly always fairly correct. I put it down to being able to back what he says up.

See I would argue that you shouldn't factor in the Kinect into the PC build. reasons:
Most people that got it for the 360 regretted it shortly after and didn't use it.
Most people complained that it should be optional to purchase as they didn't want to have to buy it with the Xbox One.
A portion (large or small I do not know) are leaving it unplugged or buying Xbox One 'console only' to prevent having to pay for the Kinect.

My 8 year estimate is £2500 with my current setup costing me £1300 but I was a squeaky bum PC gamer for most of that time. I'd guess about 8 years (started with budget setups moving to mid and now at mid-high), plus I sold some of my components - some for more than they were purchased new, so was able to rein in the outlay amount. Going by what I know my PC gamer friends have spent, I would say Gareth is quite close with his estimates for the PC cost.

I think the console outlay is way overestimated by what I've seen with friends. I'd figure it is about half. £700-800 for the console and one replacement plus a pad or two. People tend to buy 4-6 games a year with some coming from friends or 2nd hand and will sell 1-3 to recoup some money.

 

Comparisons between pc and Xbox costs are Irelivent to most. Pc desktop ownership is on the downwards.

On forums like this you could technically say a 750 will give similar performance as everyone likely owns a pc of some discription.

In the general population that's not really true as most people I know binned there desktops and would cost them a lot to get a desktop back.

Gareth's post is accurate for most in terms of cost maybe not including kinnect. It's widely inaccurate for most people in forums like this as they spend a lot more on yearly upgrades. Yes games are cheaper but when your upgrading 50-60% of the build every year as some do your spending more on hardware than you are on software. ( even that does not include expensive software like Adobe that some of us use)

Facts are pretty simple Xbox one needs a sales booster, titanfall is likely not it.£400 is still a lot of money for a device with a tiny selection of games none of which are must play exclusives. Game prices are also high as with all new consoles.

You can aquire titanfall on pre order for under £20 currently after the initial pre views slaughtered the game a bit.