Cooling A few newbie questions about WC

First I was planning on the 3R System's "Poseidon" watercooling sys., but it's still some weeks untill released. Then I thought to myself that I would investigate the net to find out what this watercoolingbuiz is all about. I have been browsing the net for nearly 2 whole days now, but still I have a few questions.

I wanted a simple system for my warm AMD 1.33Ghz. At an american site they said that I didn't need a rad, I could use a big hollow copperplate, but is that true?
Also Im a bit confused about the block. Some sites claim that the maze is the most optimal, and others claim something else, but what works best for a very warm CPU?
Is a res a nesessaty? Can't you make a closed system only with a rad?


Don't you think that my small system can use the DD Maze 3 with out it breaking/leaking?

Lastly could I get an advise on a setup?
I was thinking of using the Eheim 1048 or maybe the Eheim 1005 pump. The rad could be a Neptune 'The Deep' Radiator.
Now comes the block, and this im not sure of... could I use an Koolance CPU-100 CPU Copper Cooler Kit or the DD2 or DD3 and should it be a 3/8 or a 1/2?

 

Welcome ThureBusk the Dane

1) What is the Poseidon?
2) Have a look at these sites

For Technical Info and "The most logical set-up"
http://www.procooling.com/articles/html/cooling_technologies_explained4.shtml#H2OCool
http://www.procooling.com/articles/html/unaclockers_h2o_buyers_guide_-.shtml

http://www.voidyourwarranty.net/review/review.php3?r1=h2oguide/index.php3

Good Guide
http://www.coolhardware.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=149

3) Yes you do need a Rad. Thats what a big copper tube is I suppose, but why not get a radiator designed for this purpose + smaller and more efficient.

4) An inline air-trap like this is a good idea (remove bubbles from system)


5) If you go for a maze 3 I would get the copper topped one.
6) Ehiem 1048 with 1/2"
7) You could always buy a ready to roll system like the Koolance or the Swiftech but mor fun the "pick 'n' mix" way

http://www.theoverclockingstore.co....8ad84867c06e5461ce12169dc569e6&categoryid=100

http://www.pclincs.co.uk//acatalog/PCLincs_Online_Store_Water_Cooling_18.html#qp

Mat

 

I bought my setup for $107, with out piping. I really love it. Here's what it has:
Gemini Cool HP WB (Some say the best out there) from DTekCustoms - (http://dtekcustoms.com)
VIA Aqua 1300 Pump from BeCooling (http://becooling.safeshopper.com/index.htm?668)

If I were you, look around at everything before making a decision. And really look at DTek. They have some great stuff, and kits too!

 

Thanx! *mat-ster* exelent guides!

1) "Poseidon" is a Whatercooler kit, ready to roll from 3R systems.
Im sorry but I only have this Korean link to the "Poseidon"
http://www.3rsystem.co.kr/product/tuning/poseidon.htm so you can't really make much of it, but I think it will be fairly cheap and reliable.

2)I think it's hard for a newbie to see through what kind of rad you should buy to get the results you want. Fx I was looking at this rad http://becooling.safeshopper.com/17/48.htm?668 but will that be efficient enough with two fans on?
Could you recommend a fitting rad?

3)I have tryed to find the Maze 3 with coppertop, but have been unable to find it for an AMD setup, so I might just consider another block. In the second artikel there is a link to the UnaBlock. Do you think this is an ok block?
http://becooling.safeshopper.com/6/117.htm?83

I got to think. On an AMD it is the little black square there needs the cooling, right?

4) I like "The tube" too, and if you'r a DIY it's easy to make.

You could actually make a quit cheap kit with the rad and the unablock and the DIY Tube.

One last Q... How much water does a normal small system like mine need? I was thinking that if you have 1 liter of water and an ok rad, then the water would always be cold, but can you settle for less, like ½ Liter or somewhere between?

ThureBusk the Dane

 

Hello SiGMA
I agree with SiGMA DTek Offer great kits..... Get the Polycarb topped blocks if you really want the show!

Try this link out for other suppliers.........
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9950

It may be a good idea to hav a look at some of the excellent German suppliers - the guy to ask about this would be Elemental

My German is non-existant so he could give you some pointers on this.

Thure the Dane could you help me out and tell me what this site is like ? http://www.crutam.nl/

Mat

 

Oh sorry Sigma, forgot to say hellow and thanks for the advise!

Well I can help you a bit with the page, if you want it partly translated. I dont speek dutch, but I can read some, 'cause it's kinda mix between german, dainish, english, flam and french. *schhhh* don't ever say that to a Dutch person, they don't like that :-D
Else I think it's kinda weird. They don't say how you can pay for the merchandise. That normaly stops me from buying if you can't use a secure server. Maybe you have to mail them and ask!?

Well you can order all their products by mail. I gues that it's this mail: crutam@wanadoo.nl , or you can call or fax your order to them.( dont forget the national code )
When theres a NV behind the product it means that theyr out of stock.
I take it that it's the Power Supply your interrested in? Well as far as I can understand, they will get the 300W on orders, it is not a stock product.

If theres more you'd like translated or commet on, please don't hesitate to ask (and point out)

Why do the make "polycrap"topped blocks if theys so bad and break?

How do I find and contact Elemental?

 

Hey check this gadget out:
http://www.calmpc.com/english/product-1c-e.htm

It's suppose to be as good as watercooling... Looks kinda small and inefficient to me

 

Dude, I'm a belgian! And german, danish, english and french have faked our language! We don't fake people!

 

hehe Relix I only said it about dutch, not belgish (have a few belgi friends)
Mat
I found this kit and thought it looked Ok, whataya say? I thought of adding "the tube" to the system to complete it.
http://www.coolerkit.dk/product.asp?product=1&page=1

It uses the MAZE2 block... pure copper topping no "polycrap" and the Eheim 1048 pump.
I just don't understand why they don't have a resevoir for the setup...

 

ThureBusk m8,

I'd definitely recommend the Tube res from OCPC - I've been really pleased with mine, so much infact Jess is making me a custom sized one to fit my case a little better then the 250mm one I'm using ATM.

I've had two Maze 2s (one 2-2 and one 2-1) both are still in great working condition and over a year old (I got one second hand!). Just lap all the top sides to 1500 grit smooth then polih with metal polish and coat with clear laquer and you'll have a luurvly shiny block that people will go 'WOW' at Mine are both finished like this and still have a great deep shine finish

The rad will be O.K. but don't expect it to perform as well as a high flow rad like the BIX or OCPC the Deep It will work tho'

Also, I'd consider changing to thick wlled silicon tubing as well, just as PVC ages and become brittle with some coolant additives (like WW) whereas silicon will last years and is cheap

Good luck with ya coolng

 

lol 'belgish' doesn't exists, we speak dutch also, with a very differint accent yeah, but it's dutch (well, actually we speak "flemish", but that's a dialect, not a language)

 

Go for it Thure,

Hav a good read of the articles in particular the procooling ones.
That looks like a good deal.
Mat

 

Thnx guys!

I think im getting there... Now I more or less knows what this' all about.
Do you have some pix of your systems you can post here, so I can see what kind of things you use?

 

DAMN U BELGIANS AND UR WAFFLES!!!!!