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Discussion in 'Gaming' started by jrs77, 22 Jun 2012.

  1. jrs77

    jrs77 Modder

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  2. DLDeadbolt

    DLDeadbolt Space Cadet

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    I've been in the closed beta for a bit now, played over a dozen hours and I'm not sold at all on it.
     
  3. Throbbi

    Throbbi What's a Dremel?

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    I was really looking forward to this.........until the first beta weekend. The controls and gameplay are hideous and the menu systems aren't exactly great which can be a real ballache with an MMO. Very disappointed :(
     
  4. el2k

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    This is released now and I've been having a look at it but money is real tight right now and people aren't giving it the best reviews but it looks really different to me and that makes me curious and want to try it out.

    Is there any way for a free trial of this game etc?
     
  5. Ljs

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    I started following this ages ago, but kind of lost interest.

    It looks a bit different which is defintely nice and I would probably think about getting it, but...

    £13 a month subscription?!

    Thats more than what some people pay for their broadband! WoW and most others are only abour £8-9 a month. 50% more?! Are you sure Funcom?!
     
  6. fdbh96

    fdbh96 What's a Dremel?

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    All I know is that its ad makes sure that bit tech stays off my adblock white list :(
     
  7. Throbbi

    Throbbi What's a Dremel?

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    Honestly? I wouldn't even play this if it was F2P let alone £13 a month :jawdrop: NO game is worth that. I was so looking forward to it but it's just dire. Save your cash and go for, well, anything else upcoming in the MMO market.

    I still love the ideas this brings to the table but the execution of everything is terrible. Wasted opportunity.
     
  8. suragh

    suragh Derp

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    Tried downloading this a few nights ago, my Download speed was under a meg so I cancelled it. It's certain that It will go F2P at some point, wouldn't doubt it being before next year. From my point of view it will flop.
     
  9. Veles

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    I liked the idea behind it and was wondering what it was like, I guess now I know.

    It's a real shame, MMOs can be so much fun, and some of them (like APB and this) have a really interesting idea behind them, but they end up poorly made and expensive.

    They really need to stop releasing half finished MMOs if they expect anyone to buy into them rather than stick to the tried and tested.
     
  10. Throbbi

    Throbbi What's a Dremel?

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    I couldn't agree more. It's been happening so much over the last few years that it's just annoying. Even the best of the recent ones - The Old Republic - was plagued by bugs at first.

    That's exactly why Guild Wars 2 is going to grab a colossal player base. The response from Arenanet when constantly quizzed abut it's release date has been 'It'll be released when it's ready.'
     
  11. fdbh96

    fdbh96 What's a Dremel?

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    Thats a problem with pretty much every game at the moment (diablo 3 for example). This is one of the benefits of console gaming asnI have found far fewer games are released with huge bugs in them
     
  12. Veles

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    Well with MMOs it's not just that it's a bit buggy, but that it's buggy, poorly optimised, and in terms of content and gameplay features, calling them half finished is being generous.

    In the past with the first MMOs, having them not quite finished out of the box wasn't a massive problem. The MMO concept was so new that it was the main draw, fans would play it and put up with the issues because it was like a toddler and they could see the potential.

    Now you have to really get your games right first time, otherwise there's little incentive for a player to move away from a MMO that has had time to mature. Without subscribers, there's no income to allow a company to keep going and to turn the MMO into what it should be.
     
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  13. dolphie

    dolphie What's a Dremel?

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    So far I'm having an absolute blast in this game. I decided to ignore all the negativity I read about this game and I'm glad I did. I saw one forum where people loved it so I gave it a shot.

    First off, I don't get why people go ape about the money. WoW might be a bit cheaper but is 4 quid really a big deal? If £4 was so important to me I wouldn't even be playing PC games in the first place. Have none of you ever 2 boxed? I use to play Vanguard which is £10 a month and I two boxed in that, so it was £20 a month, and I saw quite a lot of others who did that too. That might be a bit extravagant if it's just a game you tinker around with at the weekends or something, but seeing as most of us play games every night, the actual price per hour of an MMO is tiny, and £13 per month is just nothing. Last time I went to the cinema I spent more than on the ticket, drink and popcorn, all for some crappy 2 hour action flick.

    Secondly, in terms of gameplay, I couldn't see it any more differently. I only recently bought it so maybe there was a patch that fixed a ton of things or something, but from my point of view, it's close to perfect. I haven't seen ANY bugs at all. In fact the only thing that isn't 100% great is that there is no Vsync option but I already have D3DOptmizer installed so I can fix that issue with 1 mouse click.

    The gameplay itself I find to be brilliant. Every quest has a voice over and most (or all?) of them have a cutscene too. Unlike other MMORPG's where the dialogue is boring and little more than kill 10 wolves, in this game I actually am happy to sit back and watch the cutscene and then go and do the mission. And most of the missions themselves are better too, with interesting investigations where you have to find clues and solve puzzles and there are stealth sections and places where you have to avoid cameras and navigate by obstacles or whatever.

    The combat is the highlight for me, it's so interesting and I love the freedom with a massive skill tree and you get to build your character any way you want. I am using a mixture of Blood Magic and an Assault Rifle. I love the challenge of the combat too, rarely do I end up on the edge of my seat so desperately fighting for my life.

    As for optimisation, the game runs smooth as silk for me most of the time, it only went low framerate in one place I visited which was a junk yard with a huge amount of scenery all highly detailed. But I'm running the game with *everything* cranked as high as it will go, including FSAA-Q and everything set to the highest and sliders all the way up. I didn't bother lowering them in the junk yard but I'm sure I could have without even making it look noticeably different.

    It's not perfect but I really love playing it, and after 3 beta weekends and 2 stress tests in GW2, this game is like a breath of fresh air. I got a refund on GW2 and I feel really happy about it going to this game instead. I'm sure some people would prefer GW2, but it's no way near as one sided as some forums and reviews make it seem. Even if GW2 was completely free, and this was £20 a month, I would still choose this.
     
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  14. asteldian

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    Great concept, but poorly executed, but then I believe Funcom are involved so it's pretty much same issue as their last game. Course, having said that I can see the appeal with the game and am not surprised that some enjoy it.

    £13 is very steep for an MMO especially if you play with a wife, that's £26 a month.
    Compare to say Rift, which, love or hate the game, IS very polished, WAS released as close to flawless as you can get with an MMO, has probably the best support of any game with frequent additional patches and content...all of which costs me £5.65 a month. So my wife and I play for less than one sub for Secret World.

    If cost is not an issue and you have the patience to deal with a games flaws then it's probably well worth a try though
     

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