Im a a real AMD "fan boi" at heart, Intel owns at the moment but im desperate to move back , so am in the process of converting my old rig to a dozer... This will mean, this winters folding will be done on AMD - for better or worse. Looks like 8 "real" cores - so was quite excited about the prospect of BIGADV for the first time - however this new "beta" seems to want 12... doh for the uber points. Anyhow, I know there are no figures on price , and we are yet to see what it can do, but is anyone else thinking of an AMD adventure? LP PS im still stalking you all in here !