Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 11 Mar 2010.
Aside from the form factor (which I don't like, it's just too big) the major falling point of the HP slate and all the copies is software. You really can't just bung windows 7 onto these things, they're not desktop PC's or laptops so shouldn't have a desktop operaing systemas they just don't work that well with touchscreen only interfaces (as seen with the tablet pcs)
Apple have got it right by not putting the full desktop OSX onto the ipad, rather using an OS that had been made from scratch to work beat with a touched based interface, however they then massevly ballsed it up by leaving out essential hardware like USB, camera ect.
Currently the only "slate" that has me excited is the Microsoft courier, mostly because the folding factor is just better IMO, the hardware looks right and the there has obviously been a lot of thought put into the operating system.
Personally, I have been a fan of slate style computers from the age of about 7 when I started to watch The Next Generation. While there is a lot of hype around slates and tablets at the minute, I think that they will make portable computing, organisation and communications easier and more accessible to everyone....Assuming they don't get dropped...
@Stelph - Yeah the courier would be my tablet of choice if it ever comes to light.
the idea of folding is fantastic, but it destroys the screen size if you want to watch videos. therefore i think we'd have to wait for OLED to be ready and give us bendable displays.
the iPad OS isn't from scratch, it's just iphone OS scaled up, the CPU and GPU are the exact same components from iphone 3GS. there is zero innovation or anything special about it. the slate/pad/courier formfactor need a new OS, not a scaled up phone OS or a scaled down desktop OS.
He works where?
I'm really interested in the Dell Mini 5, but the rumoured price has my wallet a little scared!
It's like Lemmings jumping off a cliff. Apple have made a useless product, but because it was Apple other manufacture will follow suit and make copies anyway.
I just love the intuitive handling of my ipod touch, it is great at what it does. Blowing it up to 10" though, I'd start demanding it to do a lot more than adding reading-comfort. I'd expect it to be able to run full blown programs instead of just apps. Apps are great and I'm convinced we'll see some great stuff for the iPad, but at times they "just don't cut the mustard"!
Ever since I got my ipod touch I have been longing for this type of interface on a notebook or tablet, which is why I still don't own either. I am waiting until they add a comparable precision and provide optimized program versions. I am even prepared to splash quite some money while at the same time settling for average performance in favor for mobility and handling. But I'd rather have it slow than not being able to run full blown applications at all.
That said it's obvious I am rather in favor of the slates: Let there be some 12 to 15" models - to provide a decent on-screen keyboard - and include the connectivity to hook-up the usual peripherals when in home base - (almost) no one would be buying notebooks anymore...
I think one of the killer things they could add to these devices is the ability to hook them up to a PC and use them as a secondary screen. Even if the electronics for it were housed in a seperate docking station that the device had to be plugged into, I reckon it'd be a differentiator.
Until these things are small and thin like we see in Sci-Fi programs (Star Trek,Andromeda ect) I think I will give them a miss. We already have PDA's and I'm no overly impressed with those yet either.
Of course they would. No on screen keyboard has been created that can genuinely stand up against a proper laptop keyboard for actual typing. Slates have their place as casual web browsing devices etc., and I'm sure they will grow in popularity and functionality (I for one would rather have a proper desktop OS on a slate, maybe with some kind of touch friendly skin, but with the option to run full fat desktop software when required), but they will never replace proper laptops.
Also the laptop format is brilliant for resting on your lap, whereas you pretty much have to hold a slate the entire time. Great if you're standing up, a pain when you're sitting down.
each to their own, personally im currently happy to watch videos ect on my iPod touch so the 5-7" screens in a courier would be a massive improvement! Plus with two screens, you could use the "bend" to make it stand up properly on your lap/table while viewing (rather than having to sit scruched up like they all seem happy to do in the iPad adverts) or even search the web while watching a film. Multitasking - its the future ;-)
My new favorite description of the "slate" phenomenon
Not if you buy Apple products...
I'm still waiting for full computer integration into my brain...
Aaand... +1 rep for that, sir.
Exactly, so buy a microsoft courier assuming its not vapourware!
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