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Cooling BayRes Barbs

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by chiyau, 28 Jun 2003.

  1. chiyau

    chiyau What's a Dremel?

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    Just received my bayres and found that it has elbow barbs on it which restrict the water flow and was wondering which size straight barb to use?

    will the 1/4" BSPT 1/2" barb be ok?

    thanks
     
  2. hydrogen18

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    depends on threading but probaly yes. Considered borign out the elbows to make them less restrictive?
     
  3. chiyau

    chiyau What's a Dremel?

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    i guess i'll give em a try, thanks hydrogen18. modding the elbows will probably be my last option.
     
  4. coolmiester

    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    don't forget that if its a VoyeurMods bay-res it will have US (NPT) thread as appose to the UK standard of BSPT so if you are replacing with brass BSPT careful not to crack the plexi :waah:

    might be a bit late already!
     
  5. Pug

    Pug What's a Heatsink?

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    It'd be worth checking with your supplier to be sure.

    Coolmiester - NPT and BSPT (& NPTF)are often interchangeable through a lot of the sizes.
    They sometimes even have the same TPI and the pitch is 55° on one and 60° on the other.
    PTFE tape can usually soak up the difference as long as you don't overtighten.

    The one to try to avoid is using Taper in a Parallel, as the stress is concentrated on a couple of threads' worth of the overall thickness.
     
  6. coolmiester

    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    hey Pug............we agree on something :thumb:

    Just thought it was worth pointing out the difference between the 2 :lol:

    They do fit, just if you screw a tapered brass barb (BSPT) into a wrong size (NPT) plexi hole it will end in tears though if you over tighten it.....think i would use nylon ones to be on the safe side if you want to go down this path!
     
  7. chiyau

    chiyau What's a Dremel?

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    currently my bayres is leaking from the barbs using the BSTP, i applied sealant and loads of tape and yet it finds a way to get out. so i guess its back to the elbow barbs for now :/
     
  8. coolmiester

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    /...........just wondering which are interchangeable????????

    sure you can make them fit with a bit of pressure, especially if you are using two soft metals such as brass and aluminium but as chiyau found.......1/4" aint interchangable in plexi.

    Did you get sorted chiyau as I got my hands on some straight nylon NPT if they are any use.
     
  9. Supercool

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    heh... my bayres came with straight barbs and I changed them for elbows :duh:
     
  10. coolmiester

    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    hey Supercool...........i'll go with that!

    much easier to handle the hose with the elbow barbs as well.

    I changed a Bay-Res from elbow to straights and i ran into all sorts of difficulties with routing the hose.

    For the over-all drop in flow rate i don't think it is worth the hassle or it wasn't in my case anyway :( ................back to elbows now :D
     
  11. scopEDog

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    I've screwed in innovatek fittings into a dtek block(bsp fittings in a npt threaded hole)..and damn was that tough:

    [​IMG]

    Although the same fittings screwed in just fine in a bayres (actually maybe a bit loose):

    [​IMG]
     
  12. chiyau

    chiyau What's a Dremel?

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    hi coolmiester

    i've been searching the web for 1/4" Npt barbs in the UK with no luck :/ i am planning to order them from Danger Den in the U.S, but if you have some i will be happy to buy them of you :)
     
  13. coolmiester

    coolmiester Coolermaster Legend

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    Hey chiyau.................these are 1/4" NPT thread to 1/2" hose tail

    /..........if they are what you are after fire me an e-mail with your address and i'll get them out to you man :thumb:

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Pug

    Pug What's a Heatsink?

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    Well, off the top of my head - 1/2" and 3/4"?
    If my info is correct,
    1/2" (nominal diameter) BSPT has 14 TPI and a basic major diameter of 0.8250"
    1/2" (nominal diameter) NPT has 14 TPI and a basic major diameter of 0.8356"

    3/4" (nominal diameter) BSPT has 14 TPI and a basic major diameter of 1.0410"
    3/4" (nominal diameter) NPT has 14 TPI and a basic major diameter of 1.0460"
    (plucked at random from Google, here)

    Pretty close, you must admit... ;)

    Those sizes aren't applicable in this particular case, I was just making you aware of a fact I you may have missed and as I said, he should check with his supplier.
    From your initial statement, it sounded like you meant they were never interchangeable, that's all.

    I've even used either/both parallel and taper in the Airplex Classic rads with no ill-effects, but they ain't plexi/acrylic
    (nor would I really recommend using the wrong barbs in any form of acrylic without checking - we used to have a good sticky about this which I remember posting in before it was common knowledge. Dunno where it is now :confused: ).
     
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  15. coolmiester

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    "close enough for pit work"

    /..........an old expression from up north :D

    essentially what you are doing is re-tapping the thread, granted not by very much! but that is why plexi tends to crack as it can't take the strain captain :D

    Be good to get the sticky up though as it is obviously still confusing quite a few people.

    Anyway chiyau...............barbs on the way :thumb:
     
  16. chiyau

    chiyau What's a Dremel?

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    Barbs arrived today coolmiester, Thanks Again :)
     
  17. coolmiester

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    good stuff chiyau........let us know how you get on!

    Take a temp reading with the elbow barbs and then again with the DD straight ones see if there is any difference!
     
  18. chiyau

    chiyau What's a Dremel?

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    i have a inline temp probe between the outlet of the rad to the cpu so i will use that to see the temps. unfortunately i will be adding a DD GF4 Block to my setup when i drain my system so i will not be ablt to compare the temps, sorry coolmiester :/
     
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