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News Creationists object to Spore

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 10 Sep 2008.

  1. ben_jt

    ben_jt New Member

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    Why does it matter if it promotes any idea, factual or not? It's a GAME, for fun and notably fictional.

    How about we take a religious-based game, for instance Black and White (disclaimer, I have never played it myself), and let science supporters pick it to pieces?

    Alternatively, we let the religious objectionists to Spore play B&W. Then, those the people who could object that B&W does not fit their beliefs of the world can then play Spore unhindered. No? Ah well, was worth a try.
     
  2. Sebbo

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    "God did not create us through trial and error. He did not make millions of mistakes until deciding on the final concept. Each of his concepts were perfect on the first try."
    i hold that earth is one of many planets in the universe housing one of his failed attempts, and that the universe may in fact be a game of Spore to God
    we can play Spore inside a game of Spore, which may in fact be another game of Spore for another game of Spore... (yay, recursion)
     
  3. Mentai

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    I wouldn't go so far as to outright call creationists ignorant (although many of them are), but this kind of thing is just embarrassing.
     
  4. Arkanrais

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    "God did not create us through trial and error. He did not make millions of mistakes until deciding on the final concept. Each of his concepts were perfect on the first try."

    hmm that is why the Raphus cucullatus became extinct then? Because God didn't make any errors in that creation did he, the dodo was just perfect, I mean look how many there are walking around out side my office...
     
  6. Cadillac Ferd

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    I wonder what the Craigslist posting this guy put up sounded like...

    Also I feel that someone should found a blog for rational thinking objecting to people who object to everything for ignorant reasons, that would be a good read.
     
  7. Redbeaver

    Redbeaver The Other Red Meat

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    ........... what..... the ..............

    sometimes i am embarassed to be a Christian. sorry.

    if we'r perfect on the first try, we wouldn't look like the way we are now. we would live hundreds of years too.

    oh, and i love the dodo example lol
     
  8. EnglishLion

    EnglishLion working for the good of mankind...

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    Like all I agree - its a game - if you don't like it don't play it! (which I suppose is what a boycott is anyway!?!)

    I get really sick of middle aged people mouthing on about computer games when they've never played a single one. On the radio a few months ago an ill informed 'mum' made a comment about how 90% of console games contain a violent aim, I promptly stopped at the local supermarket to survey the XBOX360 top 20 shelf to find that it was actually only 7 out of 20, that's 35%! Most games were sports, SIMs or Racing.


    However, I do like this quote from Tyrmot, I sure hope he doesn't believe that the universe began with a 'big bang' that to me seems far less likely...
     
  9. theevilelephant

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    Silly muppets. What really has me in fits is the notion that God can't defend him/her/itself so they must intervene on God's behalf. If God hates evoltion theory let God deal with it, and prove us all wrong :p
     
  10. kylew

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    Personally, I can't stand the theory of evolution, and the portrayal of it as fact by people who admit it's just a theory, but just because I don't like the theory doesn't mean I have to 'hate on' everything that's slightly to do with it.

    I played spore last night, and while I think evolution is a joke, I quite enjoyed spore. You don't have to take everything so seriously, when you play a FPS where you run around killing hundreds of people, that doesn't mean you condone the killing of hundreds of people. Or when you play GTA, you aren't condoning the acts in the game, because it's not real, it's a fictional story that shouldn't have any bearing on anyone person's life (other than those who think they're actually real).

    Hey look, a top of the range PC just APPEARED in front of me! It's got specs not even thought of yet!

    That's just as likely to happen as evolution is true :p

    Apparently, evolution is the one scientific theory taken as fact, that they aren't able to prove using a formula, when something is to be taken as fact, it needs its own formula that works, evolution doesn't have this, yet is still taken as fact, oh well... :D

    Either way, people need to get over them selves really, spore is fun and not an attempt to misinform the whole gaming community, a lot of religious groups do far worse things and get a way with it, address those issues before complaining about petty things such as easy going games. If they put the same amount of effort into fixing the problems around the world as they do complaining, I reckon the world would be a better place.
     
  11. Tyrmot

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    Probably more of a small whimper :p
     
  12. Tyrmot

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    @ kylew - probably flamebaiting I know, but still - no-one with any brains takes evolution as *fact* - it is simply the best theory we have at the moment. Anyone who knows anything about evolution (or indeed the scientific method in general) knows that. If you want to go and setup straw men, there are plenty of fundie forums that would welcome you with open arms!
     
  13. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    :duh:

    You need to research more before you make these points. I at least had the decency to grow up as a christian, spend years in bible camp and summer school, study Philosophy and Ethics at A-Level and be active in discussions and debates with Christians on a number of topics before I turned around and started shooting holes in the biblical theory. Can't you do the same, if only to ensure that your arguments aren't blatantly flawed?

    Start here, and at least watch it without an open mind before you shoot holes in it, even though his view is aggresively contrary to you. It delves into proofs, which is more than you are able to do when you say that evolution is false.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4471435322910215458
     
  14. kylew

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    *cough*

    You're being worse than I am to be honest, I didn't insult you or anyone else, I insulted the theory. Stop flame-baiting and being a fool just because I don't agree with what you think. You're entitled to think what you want and so am I.

    There's many things that discuss how it's an extremely flawed theory, just as many as there are that support it, and I maintain my opinion on that it's a very flawed theory, just because I don't share your opinion doesn't mean I need to 'grow up'.

    I wasn't actually arguing the point with anyone. I expressed my opinion, read the rest of my post and take note of it instead of nit-picking the parts you disagree with.

    Ignorance, dismissing what I say and stating that I'm being ignorant because I'm dismissing the theory of evolution? Yet you tell me that some one 'delving in to proofs' is more than I am able to do is bascially telling me I'm wrong, but by trying to put an intelligent spin on it. Tell me I'm wrong, I don't care, but don't complain about me being closed minded that I dismiss a theory whilst you're dismissing my opinion.
     
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  15. Tyrmot

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    You insult people not theories. Only a fool would try and 'insult' a *theory*. Anyone with half a brain would simply offer at least one single fact to try and disprove/question it. You did neither.

    - nuff said there really
     
  16. Tyrmot

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    When you understand the difference between a *theory* (in the scientific sense) and an *opinion*, then come back and talk about whether evolution is valid or not

    [OK no more feeding the trolls]
     
  17. kylew

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    Insult isn't restricted to people, of course you can insult a theory, the same way you can insult a person's intelligence, or workmanship.

    As for your second point, I'm talking about scientific theories, I'm sure deep down you knew that, you just wanted to complain a bit more. I'll rephrase it easier for you to understand.

    Scientific theories that are proved as fact, need a formula to support the theory, evolution doesn't have a formula, yet it's still taken as fact and portrayed as fact by a lot of people. Most school science teachers portray it as fact that I've came across. :sigh:

    So you're insulting me for not agreeing with your opinion, and that I'm closed minded for dismissing evolution, and acting as if it's fact, yet you're still convinced that you're being open-minded and not dismissing anything? You can't call some one for dismissing something while dismissing their opinion yourself. That doesn't even begin to make any sense.

    So you're basically saying:

    'I'm right, you're wrong, but if you tell me that I'm wrong, then you're being foolish and being dismissive of what I think, and you're just stupid and can't think for yourself.'

    :confused:
     
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  19. Tyrmot

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    That wooshing noise was my point going over your head.
     
  20. Haramzadeh

    Haramzadeh Son of Sin

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    Even if it is a joke blog, it's pretty hilarious. :D
     
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