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Linux Gaming with WINE

Discussion in 'Software' started by Mr_Mistoffelees, 14 Jun 2022.

  1. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Half considering giving Linux a spin, instead of upgrading to Windows 11, partly to give myself something new to learn and keep my brain active. Apart from driver support, one thing that concerns me is the overhead from running a game through WINE or something similar. Would having a fast 8C 16T CPU, an R7 5800X, mean that overhead is not worth worrying about?
     
  2. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Absolutely nothing to worry about. In fact, Wine's been faster for many applications than running them natively on Windows since 2006.

    There's also Proton, Valve's our-own-Wine-with-blackjack-and-hookers, which works a treat.

    Remember, Wine Is Not an Emulator - it's a compatibility layer. It doesn't do any heavy lifting of its own, it just sits there and when your application says a Windows thing leans over to Linux and says "hey, that app just asked <Linux equivalent>."
     
  3. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The gpu drivers thing very much depends on the card and what you're doing with it...

    If you're gaming, amd is basically painless iirc
    nvidia... not so much [but the degree of pain is card and distro dependant]

    If you're doing anything compute-related [CUDA or ROCm], ime the opposite is true.
     
  4. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Thanks for your thoughts. One of these days I just need to pull my finger out and go for it. I can always go back if I don't get on with Linux.

    Any thoughts on a good Linux noob distro?
     
  5. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    they all have their pros and cons, be it the underlying distro or the desktop plonked atop.

    Most tutorials will probably [still] assume you're on Ubuntu or adjascent distro

    Personally I tend to prefer the Fedora side of the aisle.

    IIRC Manjaro is as close as you can get to SteamOS without too much nutache as they both have Arch btw underpinnings. If that was the route you were wanting to travel down
     
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  6. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    With that in mind, probably easiest to get started with Ubuntu then. Looks like drivers won't be a problem, including our printer, for which 64bit Linux drivers are available on Canon's website.

    EDIT: Looks like drivers won't be a problem for most things. There are none for Evoluent vertical mice but, I have found a tutorial.
     
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  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Try out a live image if you can, that way you can get to terms with it before installing... if you find yourself hating the desktop environment or something, try a different one.
     
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  8. Byron C

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    Pop!_OS from System 76 is a good one to try, I hear people have particularly good results with gaming and that it's quite a pain-free installation process.

    I think when I make the switch to Linux full-time I'm going to use Linux Mint.
     
  9. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    I will take on board everything above. Whilst I have been using Windows since '3 For Workgroups', I am a Nooby McNoobface with Linux, despite thinking about it a few times before.
     
  10. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    KDE is, out of the box, probably closest to windows in terms of layout.
    GNOME [and the bodge job ubuntu uses], has a more mac-like dock and ubuntu also shoehorns in a macos-style global menu into the top menu bar.
    Cant remember what Mint uses any more...

    There are others, but Gnome and KDE are still the most prevalent options.

    But this is where the live images come in... some people swear by gnome, some swear at it... likewise KDE... and the rest...
     
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    As the resident annoying pedantic nerd, I feel I must point out that Windows For Workgroups was 3.11, not 3.

    I run it in DOSBox, incidentally. In Linux!
     
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  12. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    No worries, I’m well known for pedantry too!
     
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    Byron C Multimodder

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    Pedantry? On an internet tech forum? Well there’s a thing you don’t see every day… Just like sarcasm, apparently…
     
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    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I think it was actually Windows for Workgroups 3.11, not Windows For Workgroups 3.11

    :happy:
     
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    Oh, I'm sorry, are you referring to Microsoft Windows for Workgroups Version 3.11? It's just, it's not clear.

    upload_2022-6-14_21-57-6.png

    Or, I guess, you could make the case that it's Microsoft® WINDOWS™ FOR WORKGROUPS Version 3.11.

    upload_2022-6-14_21-58-9.png

    But that's maybe a bit shouty...
     
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    Most tutorials will be aimed at Ubuntu and derivatives. Mind you, some tutorials may be outdated, so search for tutorials for your specific distro and version.
    Pop!_OS makes it easier to install drivers, so long as your hardware is relatively new (more specifically, GPU).
    To be honest, Ubuntu based distros are mostly just Ubuntu with a different desktop environment and default apps (this is an oversimplification, but not far from the truth).
    Other distros (Arch&co, RedHat/Fedora&co) will have less information available and/or may/will require more faffing about.

    If you're looking to use your Linux box for gaming (or your gaming box for Linux?), starting off with Steam is the easiest, then give Lutris a go when you decide to stray from Steam.

    You'll find most other things, you'll have the same as what you have on windows (Spotify, Discord, Slack) or something similar that covers 90% of the windows equivalent which is 85% more than what mere mortals use these for (LibreOffice, TheGIMP, Thunderbird).

    As a power user, nothing on Windows comes close, no matter what the crazed PowerShell user tells you.
     
  17. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    You can even use powershell on pingu...
     
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    yuusou Multimodder

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    ... if you hate yourself.
     
  19. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    You can use Linux on Windows, too. The world's gone mad!
     
  20. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    That's powershell on mac.

    ...or anything on mac.

    MS even have their own linux distro(s)
     
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