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CPU Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P with AMD Phenom II X4 965 OC Performance Analysis

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by windwithme, 3 Dec 2009.

  1. windwithme

    windwithme Active Member

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    AMD implemented 45nm manufacturing almost one year, and made AMD product line be more competitive.
    For a long time, AMD used 65nm K8/K10 to compete in the market.
    However, the performance, clock and power consumption are not as good as competitor.
    AMD only relied on under 100USD products to survive. Indeed, AMD supporters are worry about this.

    AMD takes the opportunity of 45nm manufacturing been matured, they launched X2/X3/X4 to fight back the market share.
    As the X2/X3 CPU can enable to X4 either by design or accident, AMD CPU really raise their mainstream market share.
    For AMD products selling, it used to be low end more and this time they emerge to mainstream market.

    In chipset, AMD has less option.
    Mainly it’s All in one, 780G/790GX and also the minor revision one, 785G recently.
    The hi-end chipset, AMD keeps 790FX + SB750.
    This review will share you AMD hi-end combination - AMD Phenom II X4 965 with 790FX chipset.

    The MB is GA-MA790FXT-UD5P.
    It’s the most hi-end AMD3 product in GIGABYTE.
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    GIGABYTE also has another AM3 model called GA-MA790XT-UD4P which is 790X chipset.
    Let’s check the outlook first, you can see the UD5P spec and components are better.
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    Back to UD5P details
    Lower Left Corner
    2 X PCI-E X16 supports CrossFireX technology and the bandwidth is X16+X16
    3 X PCI-E X1
    2 X PCI
    Realtek 8111D dual LAN chips support Teaming
    Realtek ALC889A supports 7.1 channel sound and High Definition Audio/Dolby Home Theater technology
    PCB is MADE IN TAIWAN
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    Lower Right Corner
    6 X blue SATAII support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 10 and RAID JBOD
    4 X white SATAII support RAID 0, RAID 1 and RAID JBOD
    Dual BIOS provide dual protection. SB is GIGABYTE SA and JMB362TA2 chip
    Clear CMOS button in right side has a cover to avoid careless press
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    Upper Right Corner
    4 X DIMM DDR3 support 1066/1333/1600 and the highest capacity is 16GB DDR3
    1 X IDE
    1 X Floppy
    Power/Reset buttons are here
    DDR3 has 2 phase PWM and next is 24-PIN power connector
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    Upper Left Corner
    AM3 CPU socket
    UD5P uses 8+2 phase PWM, as Phenom II X4 965 power consumption is 140W, the PWM design is absolutely enough
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    IO
    8 X USB 2.0
    2 X RJ-45 LAN
    1 X S/PDIF Fiber/Coaxial output
    1 X 1394a
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    NB heat pipe
    This design won’t interfere the PCI-E X1 slot
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  2. windwithme

    windwithme Active Member

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    GIGABYTE components placement are very clean
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    BIOS page
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    Main tuning menu
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    Voltage page
    DDR3 Voltage Control +0.050~0.750V
    NB Voltage Control 1.100~2.600V
    CPU NB VID Control -0.600~+0.600V
    CPU Voltage Control -0.600~+0.600V
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    CPU cores enable status
    F8a BIOS adds the enable 3 cores feature
    You can use this function to instead of unstable quad core CPU to enhance the stability.
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    DRAM Set Up page
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    DDR3detail parameters
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    PC Health Status
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    The setup above is my CPU OC to 370MHz.
    In fact, AMD RAID compatibility issue really trouble me the extreme OC for few days to find out the issue.
    If CPU want to run in high frequency, CPU NorthBridge Freq./HT Link Frequency/CPU NB VID Control need to be adjusted.
    According to each CPU capability, you have to adjust the voltage and HT frequency to find out the best combination.


    Test Configuration
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965
    MB: GIGABYTE GA-MA790FXT-UD5P
    DRAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT CMG4GX3M2A2000C8
    VGA: MSI R4890 CYCLONE DDR5 1GB CrossFire
    HD: CORSAIR CMFSSD-64GB2D
    POWER: Antec TruePower New TP-750
    Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
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    The first is AMD Phenom II X4 965 default performance test
    CPU 200.9 X 17 => 3415.4Mhz
    DDR3 1607.4 CL6 6-6-18 1T

    Nuclearus Multi Core => 14890
    Fritz Chess Benchmark => 17.41/8355
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  3. windwithme

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    CINEBENCH R10
    1 CPU=> 3955
    x CPU=> 14398
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    PCMark Vantage => 11844
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    3DMark Vantage => 16362
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    Phenom II X4 965 default clock is 3.4Ghz, so the performance is quite high.
    As 45nm manufacturing CPU, 1.4V is a little bit high.


    AMD DRAM Performance
    I use CORSAIR last dual channel product, DOMINATOR-GT CMG4GX3M2A2000C8
    Clock is DDR3 2000, Latency are CL8 8-8-24, and voltage is 1.65V
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    CPU 3.4Ghz
    DDR3 1607.4 CL6 6-6-18 1T
    Sandra Memory Bandwidth - 9320MB/s
    EVEREST Memory Read - 13289MB/s
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    CPU 3.825Ghz
    DDR3 1632 CL6 6-6-18 1T
    Sandra Memory Bandwidth - 9617MB/s
    EVEREST Memory Read - 14274MB/s
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    AMD CPU has built in the Memory Control. During K8 stage, AMD had very high memory performance.
    Since years, Intel also uses similar design and support Tri-channel. It makes AMD far away behind in DDR3 performance.
    During my test, DDR3 can be stable at 2160 in Intel, but even it’s difficult to over DDR3 1700 in AMD platform.
    In fact, AMD DDR3 is difficult to tune. Even the best capable AMD CPU, highest DRAM is only around DDR3 1800.
    I think AMD needs to improve more for catch up the extreme segment. It’s nothing about memory capability now.


    Phenom II X4 965 Temperature
    Cooler is Tuniq Tower12 Extreme, the top level cooler in the market now.
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    CPU 3.825Ghz
    Stanby - 40
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    Full speed - 59
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    45nm Phenom II is improved a lot which compare to 65nm Phenom.
    Even I OC to over 3.8Ghz, the temp is still lower than 60.
    Of course, Tuniq Tower12 Extreme cooler is indispensable contribution.
     
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    AMD Phenom II X4 965 OC Performance
    CPU 306 X 12.5 => 3825.2Mhz
    DDR3 1632 CL6 6-6-18 1T

    Hyper 4 X PI 32M=> 19m 23.341s
    CPUMARK 99=> 526
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    Nuclearus Multi Core => 16277
    Fritz Chess Benchmark => 19.44/9331
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    CrystalMark 2004R3 => 255735
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    CINEBENCH R10
    1 CPU=> 4287
    x CPU=> 15507
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    PCMark Vantage => 13138
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    3DMark Vantage => 17226
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    Previously, Phenom II X4 955 only can be atble at 3.7Ghz, and all reviews in internet are around 3.6~3.7Ghz.
    This time, Phenom II X4 965 can reach 3.8Ghz, AMD 45nm yield rate is improved a lot.
    However, compare to Intel 45nm CPU can reach 4~4.2Ghz, AMD still need to work harder.


    GIGABYTE MA790FXT-UD5P
    Good
    1. GIGABYTE most top AMD product has good outlook, packing and components usage
    2. 2oz PC, Japanese made solid capacitors, and plenty software bundled
    3. Support ATI CrossFireX X16+X16 technology
    4. Rich BIOS items, wide voltage range and latest BIOS also support enable 3-Core feature
    5. Built-in 10 SATAII, 8 USB 2.0 and 8+2 power phase

    Weakness
    1.AMD SB750 RAID performance is not good as Intel
    2.Doesn’t built in diagnostic LED
    3.AMD CPU structure limitation make DDR3 clock be lower

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    Performance ★★★★★★★★★☆
    Components ★★★★★★★★★☆
    Specification ★★★★★★★★☆☆
    Outlook ★★★★★★★★☆☆
    C/P Value ★★★★★★★★☆☆

    AMD is hot in enabling dual core CPU to 3 or 4 cores.
    However, you have to be aware of the CPU is not 100% can be successful.
    The highest C/P for AMD platform so far is 785G and dual core or tri core CPU to enable quad core by your own luck.

    But no every user like using Micro-ATX boards.
    For ATX, AMD has 770 and 790 chipset.
    The review this time is the top 790FX and SB750 chipset which is only product to support X16+X16.
    UD5P has very good design and components. Unfortunately, AMD CPU and DDR3 OC capability is not good enough.

    GIGABYTE MA790FXT-UD5P combines with AMD Phenom II X4 965 are middle price range.
    Both products are around 183/193USD, so the C/P and performance are acceptable as it’s the highest combo in AMD platform.
    As the normal users, middle range and entry level, AMD platform is super valued.
     
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    anywaybit-tech could post this as an aticle. very good review :thumb:
     
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    I very much love his photos, his Wind's thread are always interesting. It's like someone bringing you the mail every morning.
     
  7. javaman

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    agreed I could drool over those picts all day, is it bad to have a hardware fetish:worried:
     
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    lol

    say bindi do phenom 2 OC any better on water?
     
  9. javaman

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    From reading around yes, but don't quote me on that.

    edit: after all they got 6GHz with LN cooling
     

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