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News Google, Microsoft agree to IP infringement code of conduct

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Gareth Halfacree, 21 Feb 2017.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    If people look at the next 10 results does Jo Johnson's head explode. ;)
     
  3. greigaitken

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    I'm not very pro pirate at all, but I suppose the devil is in the detail, how easy can a site find itself on the 'bad' list, how does one get nominated? This makes google etc. officially less impartial and more open to arguments that a search engine should be responsible for all it's links. (currently i think they only censor child porn and some malware)
    What about links to illegal knife shops, online shops selling pirate goods etc... why does sharing of digital media make such a high priority.....
     
  4. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Absolutely untrue, I'm afraid. Google has been tweaking its results to censor known pirate sites since 2012 - it's even known as the Pirate Algorithm. Additionally, they take down anything requested by copyright holders and governments, as well as results people in Europe just want forgotten. Then there's the accusation that it pushes rival sites down the list in favour of its own services, and that should give you an idea of just how much tweaking (or censorship, depending on your political stance) Google does of the results you receive. Malware and child porn ain't the half of it.
    If you mean online shops selling counterfeit goods ('cos you can't pirate a handbag), then both those and illegal knife shops are already subject to far harsher laws than being bumped down the Google results page. If you're caught selling an illegal knife or a counterfeit handbag, you'll get the Proper Rozzers on you and enjoy a stint at Her Majesty's pleasure. If you're uploading DVD screeners to The Pirate Bay from an anonymous VPN, there ain't much anyone can do except try to make it harder for people to find your stuff - they can't arrest you if they can't find you!
     
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    Corky42 What did walle eat for breakfast?

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    That's if you can access those sorts of sites, going on the list Virgin Media provides there's 161 sites that are blocked at an ISP level by court order for infringing copyright.
     
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    A block that stops nothing but the most casual of pirates anyway.
     
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    Now, when can we expect content providers to present their movies and shows in a flexible and affordable way that doesn't discriminate users based on their location?

    If you are a content producer and your TV show comes up on google first from pirated sites rather than your own platform, then you are doing something wrong.

    I have rented many movies from google due to the fact that I can easily see it advertised on the search results as being rentable from youtube. Most movies cost about £2.50 to rent which is pretty good.
     
  8. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Which are exactly the ones you want to stop. Hardcore pirates want everything for free, and are going to be near-impossible to turn into paying customers. Casual pirates, though? If they can't easily get their hands on a freebie, they'll sigh, stick their hands in their pockets, and shell out for the real McCoy.
    For EU member states? Pretty soon, thanks to an upcoming law. For the UK post-Brexit? Good luck with that.
     
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    There is, of course, something to be said for the increase in profits made through piracy, due to users' exposure to media they otherwise would never have discovered. Now, I'm not saying that I, personally, have ever pirated *anything*, discovered I liked what I was hearing / watching, and decided to go buy the product .. but I hear tales of folks who have done exactly that ...

    -j
     

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