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Graphics GTX660

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by kenco_uk, 7 Sep 2012.

  1. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    Looks interesting...!

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    Mini review later ;)
     
  2. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Especially as interest as these were supposed to be OEM cards only?
     
  3. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    There looks to be two versions, the GTX660 OEM is a GK104 chip, whereas the retail version runs on the GK106 chip, albeit with less shaders (perhaps the GK106 is efficient enough to not feel the cut in the amount of shaders? Not sure).

     
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  4. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    GTX660 mini review

    Mini review.

    Wow, the 660 is a tiny card, in comparison to previous generations. As you can see from the pics below, against a 560Ti448 it's significantly shorter. One PCI-E power socket, two cooling fans, a single sli connector (no 3 way sli with this card folks).

    One thing to note, I had 301.42 WHQL drivers installed which I thought would carry across okay. They don't. I even tried the newer 306.02 WHQL drivers and they wouldn't recognise the card either. I had to use the included cd which had version 305.27 drivers.

    On with the benches!

    I picked a few that I had readily available, namely the CPC Benchmark 2007, just to see if the change made any impact on the system. Then I ran 3dmark2011. Once that had finished, I ran the Unigine 2.1 benchmark and lastly I ran the benchmark in Dirt Showdown.

    I'll tell you know, it's not all that impressive. I suppose it makes for a leaner, greener rig. I'm itching to see how this card overclocks though :)

    Here's a copy of the benchmark results in full:


    Custom PC Benchmarks Suite

    GTX560Ti448
    Image editing: 1882 points.
    Video encoding: 3384 points.
    Multitasking testing: 1754 points.
    Overall score: 2340 points.

    GTX660
    Image editing: 1897 points.
    Video encoding: 3233 points.
    Multitasking testing: 1703 points.
    Overall score: 2278 points.

    3DMark2011

    SCORE
    P6093 3DMarks with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448(1x) and Intel Core i5-2500K Processor
    Version: 1.0.3.0
    SystemInfo Version: 4.11
    07/09/12 21:15:42
    Id: 4329098

    Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448
    Vendor Unknown
    # of cards 1
    SLI / CrossFire Off
    Memory 1280 MB
    Core clock 800 MHz
    Memory clock 2200 MHz
    Driver name
    Driver version 8.17.13.142
    Driver status FM Approved

    Graphics Card
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 (i5)
    Vendor Unknown
    # of cards 1
    SLI / CrossFire Off
    Memory 0 MB
    Core clock 850 MHz
    Memory clock 0 MHz
    Driver name
    Driver version 8.15.10.2761

    Operating system 64-bit Windows 7 (6.1.7601)
    Motherboard MSI Z77A-GD65 (MS-7751)
    Memory 8192 MB
    Module 1 4096 MB Crucial Technology 9 @ 667 MHz
    Module 2 4096 MB Crucial Technology 9 @ 667 MHz
    Hard drive model 128GB M4-CT128M4SSD2

    3DMark Score P6093
    Graphics Score 5786
    Physics Score 8038
    Combined Score 6324
    Graphics Test 1 25.15 FPS
    Graphics Test 2 26.3 FPS
    Graphics Test 3 37.18 FPS
    Graphics Test 4 18.41 FPS
    Physics Test 25.52 FPS
    Combined Test 29.42 FPS

    Default settings used Yes
    Edition Basic
    Screen Width 1280
    Screen Height 720
    Msaa Sample Count 1
    Texture Filtering Mode Trilinear
    Max Af Anisotropy 1
    Tessellation Detail 5
    Max Tessellation Factor 10
    ShadowMapSize 5
    Shadow Cascade Count 4
    Surface Shadow Sample Count 16
    Volumetric Illumination Quality 5
    Ambient Occlusion Quality 5
    Depth Of Field Quality 5
    Enable Window Mode Off
    Enable Vertical Sync Off
    Enable Triple Buffering Off
    Enable Wireframe Off
    Color Saturation 100%

    SCORE
    P6485 3DMarks with Generic VGA(1x) and Intel Core i5-2500K Processor

    Version: 1.0.3.0
    SystemInfo Version: 4.11
    07/09/12 22:38:59
    Id: 4329632

    Graphics Card Generic VGA
    Vendor NVidia Corporation
    # of cards 1
    SLI / CrossFire Off
    Memory 2048 MB
    Core clock 549 MHz
    Memory clock 3004 MHz
    Driver name
    Driver version 9.18.13.527
    Driver status Not FM Approved

    3DMark Score P6485
    Graphics Score 6397
    Physics Score 8077
    Combined Score 5444
    Graphics Test 1 29.5 FPS
    Graphics Test 2 29.54 FPS
    Graphics Test 3 40.15 FPS
    Graphics Test 4 19.55 FPS
    Physics Test 25.64 FPS
    Combined Test 25.33 FPS


    Unigine

    Heaven Benchmark v2.1

    GTX560Ti
    FPS: 59.0
    Scores: 1487
    Min FPS: 5.2
    Max FPS: 131.6

    GTX660
    FPS: 61.0
    Scores: 1537
    Min FPS: 24.8
    Max FPS: 130.9


    Hardware

    Binary: Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1500 Release May 21 2010
    Operating system: Windows 7 (build 7601, Service Pack 1) 64bit
    CPU model: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
    CPU flags: 3300MHz MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 SSE42 HTT
    GPU model: Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000 8.15.10.2761 2108Mb
    Settings

    Render: direct3d11
    Mode: 1920x1080 fullscreen
    Shaders: high
    Textures: high
    Filter: trilinear
    Anisotropy: 4x
    Occlusion: enabled
    Refraction: enabled
    Volumetric: enabled
    Replication: disabled
    Tessellation: normal

    Dirt Showdown
    GTX560Ti448
    Total Frames 2561
    Average FPS 46.88
    Minimum FPS 31.40
    1920x1080, 16xQCSAA

    GTX660
    Total Frames 2092
    Average FPS 39.66
    Minimum FPS 30.23

    Basically, each one was run at default settings, no driver tweaking, no gpu overclocks.

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    Nowhere near conclusive results. I'd presume some games would take better advantage of the newer silicon. Perhaps it's down to drivers.

    Also, by jiminy it runs quiet! The fans of the 560 were certainly discernable. I couldn't hear the 660 fans revving up at all while benching. That's quite a major achievement in my book as for too long now I've had cards that have been quite loud at times.
     
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  5. debs3759

    debs3759 Was that a warranty I just broke?

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    I would think a fairer comparison would be a 660 to a 560. The Ti 448 is relatively high-end compared to a vanilla 560. That would show better what a generation jump does :)

    Not bad results though even if not as good as you had hoped.
     
  6. law99

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    Oh Ya. I 560 448 is basically a 570 yes? Which is two steps up from the 560.

    But on the plus point, it is quite near the performance of a card that was 2 jumps in performance away from its predecessor. Which ain't to be sniffed at.

    This is in the public domain now then this card?
     
  7. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    The 560Ti448 isn't quite a 570 - it's not far off though and tbh with a little overclocking it does match a 570.

    Unfortunately, it's the only card I've got available :)

    Tweaktown have had a review up for a few days. Looking at the results though, the 660 is either a little slower, matches and sometimes bests a GTX580! Unfortunately, they haven't posted their test rig as the 3dmark score is quite a bit higher than mine.

    edit: oc results so far..

    3dm11

    SCORE P6832 3DMarks
    GRAPHICS SCORE 6746
    PHYSICS SCORE 8069
    COMBINED SCORE 6029

    Using MSI Afterburner settings of
    Power % 105
    Core +110
    Memory +535

    GPU-Z reports
    GPU Clock 1080 Mhz (up from 980 Mhz)
    Memory 1770 (up from 1502 Mhz)
    Boost 1133 Mhz (up from 1033 Mhz)

    Bandwidth has gone up from 144 GB/s to 170GB/s.

    Heaven 2.1

    FPS 65.5
    Scores 1651
    Min 25.6
    Max 142.1

    Dirt Showdown Benchmark
    Total Frames 2448
    Average FPS 45.95
    Min FPS 33.48
     
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  8. lancer778544

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    Kenco, do you know when this card will hit the shelves and how much for? Is it looking like the replacement for the 560 Ti? My friend is going to be building a new PC very soon but his budget can only stretch to a 560 Ti rather than the 660 Ti and I'm wondering if its worth him holding off till this card gets launched.
     
  9. oliverr97

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    This card does look very interesting, i might get one if the price is right :)
     
  10. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    It was £197 something pence. There were only 10 available at the time. I'd seen the tweaktown review and thought it looked alright. I can't seem to match their results though, even overclocked so I wonder if they reviewed the OEM version that has the extra sharers. Bit fishy methinks.
     
  11. Harlequin

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    does gpu-z recognise it?
     
  12. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    Latest version does, aye.
     

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