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Graphics hd5770 or hd4890?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by rodrigobiz, 12 Nov 2009.

  1. rodrigobiz

    rodrigobiz What's a Dremel?

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    what is the best option in graphic card hd5770 or hd4890?

    I look to several reviews and don't know with one pick. I know that 4890 have better performance, but directx 11 worth buy a card with 4850 ~ 4870 horse power?

    Do you guys think that the drivers could elevate the performance overall of the HD5xxx series to the point where 5770 be close to 4890?

    Anyway price difference is of 23 euro more for the 4890. What would you choose?

    (sorry if my english is not so good =])
     
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  2. trig

    trig god's little mistake

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    it's a tough call really. the consensus is 4890, since directx11 isn't really out there yet. plus, if dx10 taught us anything, the current dx 11 hardware will probably not get anywhere near the performance in dx11 that they get in dx10. at the same time, it's hard to recommend spending that kind of money on "old" tech. i'd say go 5850 if you're gonna go dx11, if you can find it. otherwise go 4890.
     
  3. tonpal

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    Like Trig said it is quite a tough question.

    The 4890 does out perform the 5770 on DX9/10 games but costs around £10 more in the UK. Playing Crysis at 1,680 x 1,050 4xAA 16xAF, DirectX 10, High Quality the 4890 runs at 28/16 fps and the 5770 at 22/11.

    Looking into the future, Wikipedia predicts a handful of games will have DX11 support by early next year and that number will only grow.

    The 5770 is a 40nm chip so the power consumption of the card should be less. Xbit Labs put the power consumption of the HD4890 at 120W and the HD5770 at 61W.

    There is not really much to choose between these cards. Personally I would go with the 5770 mainly for the DX11 compatibility.
     
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    I think it really depends on what games you play. The 4890 is clearly the faster card, and although there are no dx11 games out yet, I don't think the 5770 will offer stellar performance in them anyway.

    If you're only playing at a relatively low resolution, then 5770 would be an ok choice as it'll run all todays games, and hopefully those due to come out soon.
    If you're playing at higher resolutions and want higher detail/AA then the 4890 is a no brainer.

    Overall though I'd try and save a bit more and get a 5850, it's a great card at a reasonable price (if you can find any stock)
     
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  5. Chicken76

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    What would you rate 1680x1050 as? Low enough resolution for a 5770 to handle?
     
  6. trig

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    then it would depnd on the games and how much eye candy you like...high eye candy and games like crysis will kill the 5770.
     
  7. Chicken76

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    Let's say for Blizzard games (World of Warcraft, and probably next year Starcraft2) running with close to maximum details would you say the 5770 would handle 1680x1050 with a modest processor (like Intel 2.5-3 GHz, 2 or 3 MB L2 cache)?

    What about the latest in the Command and Conquer series or Quake Live?
     
  8. pimonserry

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    The new AVP and Crysis 2 would sell DX11 for me (according to the Wiki list).
    Save for a while, then get yourself a 5850 or 5870 and do it properly ;)
    Although by the time you save that much money, Nvidia's DX11 cards might be out.

    Could be worth waiting for this one ;)
     
  9. slambittech

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    i looked at both before i got mine recently. i choose the 4890 due to the fact that dx11 is still a developing tecnology, the 4890 is faster for now. yes the 5 series has dx11 but in a years time there will be loads of other dx11 card offerings so you would have more choices and more cards to review and compare. so basically i thought the 5 series are the basic cards (lower end) of what dx11 might be because its still a new technology.
    So as a result i went with the 4890 because you cant go wrong with it. thats my opionion anyways.
     
  10. Yadda

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    It's a pretty tough call to make and one I've been mulling over for a few weeks. I made my decision yesterday and opted for the Asus 5770. It hurts in a way because I know the extra DX10 performance a 4890 would give me would be noticeable in a few titles even at 16x10 but eventually I was reluctantly drawn to the 5770 because of the 4xxx series approaching EOL which will probably mean no more driver development for the 4xxx series, DX11 and the potential for adding another 5770 in crossfire further down the line for a good performance boost (they apparently scale very well in crossfire). Asus "Voltage Tweak" cards also have the nice bonus of allowing voltage tweaks and overclocking without invalidating the warranty so when I saw the Asus 5770 finally in stock at Scan yesterday I made the leap (lucky too, they're back to pre-order again already).

    Also, whilst they're pretty quick at the moment I'm hopeful that they'll dig out some extra performance with future driver enhancements.

    They're both great cards so either way it's a tough call to make.
     
  11. Yadda

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    Have a look at a few crossfire 5770 tests. They are very close to 5870 performance for considerably less cash.
     
  12. Horizon

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    I was on the fence on this one the arguments for either card pretty much cancel out each other, pick your compromise, but at least with the 5770 it will retain it's resale value somewhat at least until AMD decides it time for a round of price cuts.
     
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  13. Yadda

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    Yea, I think the clincher for me was the option to add another 5770 in future and have very near 5870 performance. Hopefully that will be enough grunt-potential for a while.

    It's ironic really. Despite having a crossfire motherboard in the past I've never been an advocate of pairing graphics cards, usually preferring the single more powerful card option, yet my decision was heavily influenced by the fact I could add another one later if I want to and get near 5870 performance on a budget.

    I bet they really throw a spanner in the works and release a 5830 or something. A highly overclockable budget 256bit mem bus card for about the same price as the 5770.

    If they do that soon I won't be pleased.
     

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