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Build Advice i7 930 or i7 860? Help!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Yukster, 16 Apr 2010.

  1. Yukster

    Yukster What's a Dremel?

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    The i7 930 (130w) clearly got the vote over the i7 920. I did some further research and i came across the i7 860 (95w) which is apparently newer and cooler! the 930 and the 860 re both similarly priced. So which one shall I get?
     
  2. xMathiasD

    xMathiasD What's a Dremel?

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    i would get the 930 ^^ - so if you are going to make a sli setup or crossfire its x16 + x16 on the pci ekspress lanes, instead of x8 + x8 (i7 860) and then you have the tri channel ram on 930 ^^
     
  3. Xonar

    Xonar What's a Dremel?

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    To be fair, this only results in around a 1-2% difference in performance which is almost negligible, if you were going tri-SLI or crossfire then my answer would differ but if you had that kind of budget I'm sure your mind would be made up already.

    If you do a lot of heavy encoding to utilise the triple channel memory then go 930 but you could save yourself around £100 by opting for the 860 without almost any drop in peformance and spend the money else where (GPU etc).

    But if money isnt a concern and you have the budget for it, 930 + X58.
     
  4. Cosmot

    Cosmot What's a Dremel?

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    first, 930 860 have the same frequency
    second, 860 stronger than 930 in the automatic overclocking
    third, 860 and 930 is not a platform

    users select for 930 certain to overclocking, However, from the ordinary overclocking, they can be said that there was no difference in fact. I believe most people are not willing to ignore cpu warranty. and 860 cheap, recommend to buy 860!
     
  5. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    CPU warranties are pretty irrelevant as CPU failure rates are extremely low. This is a tech enthusiasts forums and "most" people are interested in CPU based overclocking.
     
  6. rollo

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    My old 920 is still running at 4ghz stable has been for 2 years now just about

    930 is better at achieving high overclocks

    860 I'd call it a cheap end peace of crap even though there same price

    if you use any high memory usage program 930 destroys 860.

    Main dif in price is x58 board

    You get what you pay for
     
  7. Xonar

    Xonar What's a Dremel?

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    Hardly :eyebrow:, care to back that up with some evidence?

    Destroys seems a little strong, I wouldnt have said more than 5-10%, even if that.

    Not to mention the extra for triple channel memory.
     
  8. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    the question here is not about choosing the CPU, the CPU is nearly identical. only difference is that 860 runs cooler and has better turbo mode.

    the question here is are you prepared to spend £80 more on a platform (CPU + motherboard + RAM) for no noticeable performance difference?

    860 and 930 uses two different platforms, so to do a comparison, you will need to consider the platform cost. and 860 centred platform costs about £80 less.
     
  9. jbloggs

    jbloggs What's a Dremel?

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    Nonsense!

    More nonsense...(as already stated, there is not much difference between them)...
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  10. cybergenics

    cybergenics What's a Dremel?

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    Not necessarily. Had two 920's replaced one with a 930, which matched the slower 920 but couldn't go as far as the quicker one, 3.9 vs 4.2.

    Built a system for a friend with a 930, also wouldnt go past 4.1. So in 4 CPU's, two 920's and two 930's, the highest clocking sample was a 920. Tested on two P6T variants and an X58 EVGA.

    First 920 d0 got 3.9 ish
    second 920 got 4.25 ish (both prime stable)
    first 930 got 3.9 and was flaky
    second 930 got 4.1 rock solid

    Not really an invite to throw an extra 35 quid at the 930 is it ?

    So unless you are overclocking and get lucky, why waste the extra cash on a 930, like I did.
     
  11. Cosmot

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    It is clear, the 930 and the 860 re both similarly priced and similarly performance! if you like newer and cooler!, you select 860.:wallbash:
     
  12. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    I'm sorry, wheres the evidence that the 860 runs cooler than the 930? Also, the 930 is newer than the 860.
     
  13. cybergenics

    cybergenics What's a Dremel?

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    If you need more memory ultimately, a 1366 system running 12GB of ram will be cheaper than going from 8gb to 16gb on an 870. In fact as 4gb sticks of DDR3 are insane money, it is way cheaper.
     
  14. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    have you even read my post? i said platform cost, not the cost of CPU.


    that is true, both platform will be really, really expensive. and think about the price to pay when upgrading 12GB to 24GB.......
    and fixed the typo for you :)

    about running cooler, at stock, it should run cooler if both were using identical aftermarket cooling. this is given the fact Intel used a much smaller heatsink for 860, confident that it runs cooler than 920/930.
     
  15. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    y not just save the money and get the i5 750 which is much cheaper almost £100. only thing you lose is HT so unless your intop heavily threaded apps then just get the i5-750.

    unless your not overclocking then i would say get the i7-860
     
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  17. Yukster

    Yukster What's a Dremel?

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    Which platform?

     
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  18. SlowMotionSuicide

    SlowMotionSuicide Come Hell or High Water

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    As far as I'm aware, H55 and H57 chipsets were introduced to take advantage of built-in GPUs in Intel's Clarkdale CPUs (ie. certain core i3 and i5 processors.)

    Since you're probably not in interested in integrated graphics, nor does your processor of choice even include it, you can stick with P55 boards.
     
  19. Yukster

    Yukster What's a Dremel?

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    That makes sense. Although if I went for a H57 Mobo, I could upgrade to a Clarkendale CPU later on without needed to change the Mobo.

    So what H57 MoBo do you recommend?
     
  20. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    P55 is a better chipset though,

    you would be downgrading if you swapped your 860 for a i3 or i5 to support those silly intergrated GPU features
     

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