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News Intel backtracks on USB 3

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Claave, 7 Sep 2010.

  1. Claave

    Claave You Rebel scum

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  2. dangerman1337

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    Please intel add USB 3.0 headers on the motherboard, PLEASE.
     
  3. r3loaded

    r3loaded Well-Known Member

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    Finally... >_>
     
  4. V3ctor

    V3ctor Tech addict...

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    yay... but I still want Light Peak :D
     
  5. crazyceo

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    Spot on! Light Peak looks to be the way forward. If USB3 was a DVD then Light Peak would be a BluRay. (Simple explanation for those who don't know what light peak is)
     
  6. Hakuren

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    Simple fact is that Intel realized that LP(or whatever else) will not be on the market for at least next 3-5 years and with every passing day they losing money. With so many USB3 add-on cards and more and more USB3 options with every passing month no-one really cares about USB2 ports anymore.

    I guessing that USB3 will hit Intel/LSI/3Ware/Adpatec and similar companies most. USB3 delivers great performance for external HDDs. Finally USB3-RAID is real possibility with great performance and at much, much lower cost. Looking forward to see some (hardware)RAID cards for USB3. Should be interesting. And with LP out later in the decade, eSATA will be dead and buried altogether.
     
  7. borandi

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    All that changes is that by default boards will have USB3. Many already do through the NEC controller. The amount of products using USB3 is still positively minimal.
     
  8. deathtaker27

    deathtaker27 #noob

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    but USB 3 will grow and USB 2 will die off similar to the 1.1 to 2 took a year or two but it did catch on.
     
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    Finally might start seeing USB 3 become more used. USB 2 will still be around for years to come unfortunately.
     
  10. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    and not forgetting, it isn't going to be a pain to change all your external usb 1.1 / 2.0 devices, as they will still work . so replacement as and when needed.

    i have 2 usb3.0 sata hd dock for data transfer, and the speed is much better, than usb2
     
  11. HourBeforeDawn

    HourBeforeDawn a.k.a KazeModz

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    saw that coming lol.
     
  12. crazyceo

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    Most new intel based motherboards have USB3 anyway and have been benchtested here. Most major manufacturers have also updated their best boards with USB3 (along with Sata6Gbps). So Intel users haven't missed out on anything.
     
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    Pretty happy about this, even in the future when Lightpeak comes out the issue still stands that it's lacking any sort of power supply from the same cable which is what gave USB a lot of it's universal functionality, really the way to go in the future (IMO) is a combination of both, USB3 for most devices that need power from the PC (or those that it would be a problem to have to use a separate socket to power) and don't really need the fastest possible transfer speed, and Lightpeak for peripherals that just focus mostly on bandwidth/speed and that you can use an extra socket to power, an example would be SSDs, if adoption increases in the future (which it almost certainly will) and overall read and right speeds start to exceed USB3's levels then I'm sure a lot of people would rather just use a seperate plug for power and gain the extra bandwidth that Lightpeak provides.
     
  14. Claave

    Claave You Rebel scum

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    I think some people might be slightly missing the point here.

    Those third-party USB 3 chips don't come for free, so if you've already designed your motherboard to have one and then Intel integrates USB 3 into its chipset, you either leave the third-party chip and ask your customers to pay double for USB 3 support or you put a load of extra work in to redesign your board. The difference might only be £10, but that can be the difference between selling your board or not. It's not a trivial problem.
     
  15. Tangster

    Tangster Butt-kicking for goodness!

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    Intel should sponsor a new USB standard, USBX-LP. Speed of lightpeak+USB power transfer.
     
  16. Altron

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    Why go to optical until we've reached the limits of copper?
     
  17. wuyanxu

    wuyanxu still wants Homeworld 3

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    i forgot, which one is Cougar Point chipset? the higher LGA2011 or the lower LGA1155?
     
  18. paisa666

    paisa666 I WILL END YOU!!!

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    hmmm... Actually USB 2.0 would be DVD, USB 3.0 HD-DVD and Light Peak BluRay

    :p
     
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    edit: i completely misread the post i just replied to, don't mind me :p

    *hides*
     
  20. Altron

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    Except Blu-Ray players can still play regular DVDs.

    If anything, Light Peak is positioned more as an eSATA replacement than a USB replacement. There are boatloads of USB devices that don't need crazy high datarates, but need power.

    Mice, keyboards, external sound cards, external NICs, external DVD burners, low-capacity flash storage, cameras, cell phones, printers - none of those need even the full USB 2.0 bus.

    Fast external hard drives, Blu-Ray players, and SSDs need high speed. Stuff that normally would have a SATA connection might stand to benefit from Light Peak or another very high-speed standard, like USB 3.0.
     
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