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Graphics Just how fast is a GTX780m anyway?!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by xaser04, 4 Aug 2014.

  1. xaser04

    xaser04 Ba Ba Ba BANANA!

    27 Jun 2008
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    This is a question that has bugged me for a while yet I have never been able to get conclusive proof; Just how fast is a GTX780m(880m) in relation to desktop cards?

    Various reviews and forum posts state the performance is anywhere from GTX670 levels (makes more sense) right the way down to the 750Ti.... (Just no). Actual analysis compared to desktop cards is hard to come by.

    Well not any longer!

    I recently got fed up with Eyefinity profiles causing all manner of trouble with my 290X. So I decided to make the move back to Nvidia Surround. I am waiting on the Maxwell cards to hit to properly upgrade, but in the meantime I bought this little beast:


    This is an Asus GTX760 DCII Mini, it clocks in at 1150/6000 out of the box and is just so damn cute!

    Given this card offers up slightly faster than GTX670 reference speeds, I thought it would be fun to use it as a base line comparison against the GTX780M both stock and overclocked.

    The reasoning behind this is that I have always though the 780M to have similar overall performance to a GTX670 based on its specifications alone. For those who don't know this is how the cards stack up:

    GTX780M - 1536 SP @ 849Mhz / 128 TMU / 32 ROPS / 5000Mhz 256bit GDDR5 160GB/s
    GTX670 (Ref) - 1344 SP @ ~980Mhz / 112TMU / 32 ROPS / 6000Mhz 256bit GDDR5 192GB/s
    GTX760 (DCII Mini) - 1152SP @ 1150Mhz / 96TMU / 32ROPS / 6000 Mhz 256bit GDDR5 192GB/s

    All of the cards are based on the Kepler GK104 architecture with the only differences being how many SMX's are enabled and the clock speeds.

    We all know that a reference GTX760 is only around 5% slower than a reference GTX670 clock for clock, thus my 760 will match up quite nicely against a mildly clocked 670 (say 1050Mhz core). Arguably at 1150Mhz on the core it is closing in on a reference GTX680... :worried:

    This sets the stage for a long overdue comparison.

    The Benchmarks

    I am running through a few benchmarks which I have easy access to on both systems. I was going to add Titanfall to the benchmark but the multplayer nature coupled with the inability to select a map made this not really possible for a quick comparison.

    Test Setup

    i7 4700MQ @ 3.2Ghz
    16GB DDR3 @ 1600MT/s
    H87M Clevo platform

    i7 4770S @ 3.9Ghz
    4GB DDR3 @ 1600MT/s
    MSI B85i mITX

    GPU clock speeds (core/memory):

    GTX780M Stock - 849/5000 (undervolted by -25mV)
    GTX780M OC - 950/6000 (undervolted by -25mV)
    GTX780M "Max OC" - 980/6000 - This is the max overclock at stock voltages

    GTX760 Stock - 1150/6000
    GTX760 OC - 1202/7000

    Battlefield 3

    1080P Ultra Settings with 4xMSAA
    5 minute FRAPS run through of "Operation Swordbreaker"


    Well there you go. The 780M is marginally slower than a GTX760 at stock clocks and quicker once overclocked. The overclocked 760 is marginally quicker again but the difference is quite small. This is a pattern that will become all too familiar...

    I forgot to run FRAPS with FPS over time for BF3. Having re-run the same section 100's of times for various reviews I really didn't want to go back and do it again....

    Crysis 3

    1080p "High" system preset with Very High Textures - SMAAx1
    5 minute FRAPS run through of "Welcome to the Jungle"



    Well what do you know, the performance is in line with what we saw in BF3. The delta is closer this time by a small margin (in favour of the 780M).

    Sleeping Dogs

    1080p "Max" settings with High AA
    Built in benchmark


    And again.... This time the 780M OC is much closer to the 760OC. If I could get the memory higher it would overtake it!


    1080p "Max" settings with High SSAA
    Built in benchmark


    The two cards overclocked are basically identical in this benchmark. The 780M at stock clocks is a little slower than the stock 760 but the difference isn't massive. Interestingly the minimums are much higher on the 780M. I re-tested this a few times and each time the result was the same. This could be a case of the raw SP advantage being more important than clock speed alone (possibly due to scheduling?).


    Standard test (P)


    The 780M wins out here despite a weaker CPU. I must admit, this was the result that got me thinking about doing this comparison in the first place.

    Benchmarks Summary & Conclusion

    I have always though the 780M performed (or could perform) roughly the same as a GTX760/670 and here is my proof. In all of the games tested the 780M is right there side by side (some could say slightly ahead) of a pre overclocked GTX760.

    Ultimately this puts its performance squarely at mildy overclocked GTX670 levels, which in a laptop isn't half bad!

    Overall I am very pleased. I now can't wait for the true successor to my 780M!
  2. Shirty

    Shirty W*nker! Super Moderator

    18 Apr 1982
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    That's very good, a worthy card to own in a laptop.
  3. xaser04

    xaser04 Ba Ba Ba BANANA!

    27 Jun 2008
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    It's just somewhat annoying that thanks to Optimus it can't run Nvidia Surround despite outputting to 3 monitors...

    It would be interesting to see some triple screen comparisons.

    EDIT: Of course Optimus also means the battery life is a respectable 3 hours so...
    Last edited: 4 Aug 2014

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