Build Advice Looking to update

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by ccxo, 26 Oct 2009.

  1. ccxo

    ccxo On top of a hill

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    Hi below is my current system which i am looking to give a upgrade, os wise i am currently on xp 32 bit home and will move to windows 7, mostly used for gaming and work.

    CPU Intel E6600
    Motherboard MSI 975X Platinum
    Ram 2 Gig OCZ plantium DDR2 6400
    BFG 8800 GTX OC2
    PSU Hyper 750watt
    Sound Card Creative Xfi gameR
    Disk Drive 2X WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 16mb (298 GB, IDE)
    Optical Drive 2X PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D SCSI CdRom Device
    24" Samsung monitor
    Thermaltake armour case

    Budget wise i have between £400-600 to spend would it be worth upgrading to i5/i7?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    There is nothing to upgrade here; even on a dump you'll have to pay for the disposal of something like this.

    PSU? what brand is it?

    Before we make you a new rig here.
     
  3. McLovin9091

    McLovin9091 I Have used a Dremel

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    Thats a bit harsh, surely you could use the.....

    Optical drive and the case. no?
     
  4. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    I was talking about the parts that do the work.
    The Intel processor is still ok.
     
  5. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    Disagree. Plenty of performance and life in a Socket 775 system. I'm running an E6850 (dual 3ghz) and I see no reason to upgrade from it. It supports PCI-E and plenty of RAM (even DDR3 on my board if I so chose) so why bother chucking it away?

    To the op:

    First option would be add in another 2gb RAM, a HD5870, and a Spinpoint F3 1TB drive.

    Second option at the higher end would be to do the above but drop in 4gb RAM instead of 2gb, and find yourself a high end E or Q series Core 2 chip.

    If you're a gamer you won't see much of a difference between a decent E or Q and the only i5 you'd be able to afford after paying the high motherboard costs, and you also wouldn't then have enough money to get a really decent graphics card.

    Breakdown option 1:

    HD5870 - around £300 (eg http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...TI/ATIHD5800Series/Sapphire/21161-00-50R.html)
    2gb DDR800 4-4-4-12-1T - around £34 (eg http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...DDR2-PC2-6400/800MHz/Geil/GB22GB6400C4DC.html)
    Spinpoint F3 1TB - around £62 (eg http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...-Internal/SATA500GBto1TB/Samsung/HD103SJ.html)

    Total including delivery a bit under £400

    Breakdown option 2

    4gb DDR800 4-4-4-12-1T around £68 (eg http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...PC2-6400/800MHz/Crucial/BL2KIT25664AR80A.html)
    Same gfx as above
    Same HDD as above
    Core2 Quad q9550 (4x 2.83, 12mb cache, 1333fsb - check your motherboard for compatibility) around £185 (eq http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...essors/IntelCore2Quad/Intel/BX80569Q9550.html)

    Total including delivery, a bit over £600
     
  6. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    You must be joking; you're putting a 5870on a crap of motherboard like that??

    Proposing the buying of a P45 motherboard and overclocking that processor would be far easier to digest.
     
  7. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    Considering your have:
    -a premium case
    -a monitor
    -an optical drive
    -a PSU

    Options:

    -Asus P7P55D Pro 133GBP
    -i5 750 151GBP
    -Seagate 7200.12 500MB 36GBP
    -4GB DDR3 85GBP

    405GBP

    You keep the GPU for now and next year you go with some 200GBP for a new graphic.
    We saved:
    -55 GBP on processor compared to Intel i7 920
    -7 GBP on a i7 motherboard
    TOTAL 62GBP; you can decide for a i7.

    I7 has the advantage of enabling two graphic cards.
    with i5 you can invest the 60GBP in a more powerful dual card; 5870x2 from ATI (in November-end) and you'll have a maximum performance PC.

    Probably better motherboard than the mentioned Asus is this:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=1060520
    a MSI board that is really great at overclocking; 127GBP.




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  8. Sh0cKeR

    Sh0cKeR a=2(s-ut)/t²

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    New P45 board, e8400, Titan Fenrir cooler, another 2gb of ram and the rest into a better GPU ( 4870,gtx275,5850 etc ). A heavily overclocked e8xxx chip is still very capable for games. You can go with i5, but your not going to see better performance in games until your gpu is changed. A third option, perhaps the best option in the long run, is to wait for a few months with your current system until you've saved up say 800-900 in spending money. You can then totally revamp your pc ( core i7 build, new psu, 1tb F3 HDD's, new case if you want to change ) and have spare to get one of the GT300 cards.
     
  9. dec

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    i would maybe maaaaybe get a core 2 quad. but definitely 2 more GB's of ram, a 1TB HDD, and a optical drive (blu ray anyone?)
     
  10. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    I stand by my suggestion to spend on the graphics card now. It'll provide the biggest boost to gaming performance and there is, in contrary to the above comments, absolutely no issue putting it in a socket 775 board.

    Rather that, than put an 8800 GTX in an i5 board, which won't actually give any gaming performance boost, which is what was asked for.
     
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  11. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    Zoon option seems to match mine

    upgrading the system but not the video card would just net him more CPU power

    i have told him to 5850 to him my self £100 less but about same performance , but the more ram be good and new hdd,
    his CPU he has got now may overclock to 3GHz on the motherboard he has got now that be the same as buying an new cpu any way (just i know its not very good motherboard thought does not support 45nm cpus and some 65nm i think he off msn now)

    upgrading the motherboard as well looks nice but i think he wants more an plug in and go option
     
  12. Sir Digby

    Sir Digby The Supprising Adventures

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    Buy the 5850, HDD and optical drive now.

    Then if you still feel the need to upgrade get the rest - but I'd say you need the above no matter what you do so you might as well buy them first and test the speed.
     
  13. ccxo

    ccxo On top of a hill

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    Thanks for all the replies ive talked abit with leexgx and i will upgrade my graphics and hdd, ive got another 2 gig of ram spare which i can use.

    As for upgrading the rest i need to acquire more funds first, thanks for the help.
     
  14. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    if he going to be upgrading the motherboard and CPU i most likely goto an http://iseries.multiplay.co.uk event with him and do it on site upgrade for him, win7 only takes less then 15 mins to install all each pc gets 100MB connection {11MB/s :) } so steam games would install quite fast and drivers as well
     

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