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Cooling Moving to WaterCooling!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by ComputerKing, 23 Sep 2007.

  1. capnPedro

    capnPedro Hacker. Maker. Engineer.

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    Well that depends. I mean a D-Tek FuZion will perform very well and RAM doesn't require a humongous amount of sinking. BUT this is only the case if you still have good airflow through your case. If you don't, then you're better off going for full cover if you want to be OCing.
     
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    Whats wrong with an 80mm blowing onto it?
     
  3. capnPedro

    capnPedro Hacker. Maker. Engineer.

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    That's my point. He wants to WC to lower noise, so he'd be better off with just the fans on his rad, rather than having to add another fan.
     
  4. Nexxo

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    A well-planned watercooling setup will channel air through the rad and then through the case. Works for me.
     
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    Right CK, here in the UK, you get..:

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    (thats exactly what you'll need but you can always change the res/rad/pump ect)
     
  6. MrMick

    MrMick What's a Dremel?

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    I think you buy quality watercooling parts or you might as well just install a performance hsf from the likes of thermalright etc , cheap watercooling is a waste of money and effort and wont outperform decent air .

    Like said earlier the swiftech kits are good for new to watercooling and the blocks are good quality .

    I havent decided the total spec of my watercooling but i will probably opt for some thing along these lines .

    D-Tek FuZion Universal CPU Waterblock or Swiftech Apogee GT Extreme Performance CPU Waterblock .
    EK FCX1900 GPU Waterblock with Reg Cooler - Copper i have a x1950 pro but you can get blocks for most of nvidia or ati cards .
    Swiftech MCP655 Pump .
    Black Ice® GTS240 Black i already have this with 1/2 barbs .
    Swiftech MCRES Micro Reservoir .
    ClearFlex 60 1/2" tubing or Tygon 1/2" Tubing but tygon is very expensive but also the best .
    Zinc Plated Jubilee/Wormdrive Clip or Nylon Hose Clamps .

    The only thing you have to be careful with when buying parts instead of a kit is that you check what comes with the parts , Swiftech include Nylon Hose Clamps and different size barbs but others dangerden etc might not .

    Mick .
     
  7. Nexxo

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    Totally true. If CK balks at spending $400,--, he is better off buying some quality Arctic Cooling heatsinks. He'll get good performance and low noise at a small price.
     
  8. ComputerKing

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    Mankz I'm not igorine I'm just try to help and understand! Sorry.

    Brother That IS 500$ US! BAM! Not cheap..

    Add this to 150$ US Rams (More 2GB) and 250GB Harddisk another 70$ mmm -- 220 + 500 = 720$ US! That's way way High on my money that I will get for my birthday and for Eid (Speical Days After Ramadan holy month) CRAP, My dad not gonna Accpet for sure!!! And the Project money is out of this!

    mmm What know? I was planing on 500$ for all that but now 700$ o_O :( mmm That kinda hard!

    What now.. Mean that Gigabyte system is ****! OMG what I do now..

    EDIT: Even if the Air cooling = that water cooling! It's good! same price yes but water cooling, Better and hotter!

    I'm really lost and confused now
     
  9. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    Forget water cooling, just get decent CPU and GPU air coolers. Air coolers these days are very good and can offer a great deal of overclocking headroom while maintaining low noise

    As I and many others before have said, watercooling is expensive and not worth the time, money and effort doing it on the cheap.
     
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    Get a Thermalright 120 Ultra and then a AC accelero S2
     
  11. radodrill

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    Generally the cheap H2O kits only perform on par with a good heat-pipe cooler (less expensive than cheap H2O).

    Quality H2O is a big initial investment; but a lot (sometimes all) of it can be re-used when upgrading your rig.
     
  12. ComputerKing

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    I really want water cooling :( :miffed:

    EDIT: you Said that don't mix Alu + copper! that Rad is Alu and blocks is Copper! that is big problem!
     
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    Only Koolance radiators are aluminium. All the others are brass IIRC
     
  14. ComputerKing

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    Only Koolance are you sure! :(

    mean now I should get that 500$ water cooling. mmmm give me some time to dusicus this with dad :waah:

    EDIT! what about koolance It's Slick! and should cost 350$ !
     
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    TBH, you'd be better with high-end Air-cooling. Its much easier to acchieve good temps and low noise easily.
     
  16. ComputerKing

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    What now :( you mean I have to forget water and go with AIR! come on
     
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    Its very easy to ruin your entire computer with water-cooling. Air is much safer for you at the mo, or at least until you've properly read up on the subject.

    When I first got my kit (£250 of it) i read up on it for over a month, and then compiled a nice document of what i wanted and why I wanted it and what it did before I went to my parents asking for it. Just give it some more though, as it seems your making a fairly impulsive decision.
     
  18. ComputerKing

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    Don't know really what will happen! I will tell you tomrrow! :(
     
  19. radodrill

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    AFAIK Koolance is the only company that uses aluminum for their radiators. Using aluminum and copper components in a H2O loop promotes corrosion, which over time degrades the components and can also clog it up.

    Unless you're willing to make the financial investment on quality components and do a lot of research then H2O cooling isn't right for you.
     
  20. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    True - if you get any Koolance parts, you should go entirely with them, since they've designed things accordingly.

    Watercooling is definitely an instance of getting what you pay for. If you want good performance that's also quiet, you're going to be looking at spending probably $350 at least. If you want to get a cheap $150 kit, don't expect much. Just because it's watercooling doesn't make it better than air - it CAN outperform air, but not if you cheap out. Air is cheaper, safer, and simpler - and performs quite respectably, especially if you spend even $100 on it. Don't get water for the sake of having water - have a real reason, and do it right.
     
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