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Networks network problem

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by RTT, 2 Dec 2001.

  1. RTT

    RTT #parp

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    right this just has me stumped.

    i have here (at a mates house)

    PC1 1x Computer running win98 (NOT SE) w/ Realtek 8139
    PC2 1x Computer running win98 (NOT SE) w/ Realtek 8139
    2x rj45 cables (both working)
    1x 10/100 8 port switch


    now heres the prob

    pc2 can see itself over the network, pc1 cant.

    neither PC can see the other one.

    all cables work, we have tried a swich and a hub.

    tcp/ip are not bound to the network cards, coz card is saying that if tcp/ip is present do you want it bound to the NIC and tcp/ip is installed.

    ip's have been specified, and subnet masks too.

    what else could be the problem?
     
  2. Kevo

    Kevo 426F6C6C6F636B7300

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    Can they ping each other ??
     
  3. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    LOL!!! win 98 (se or not doesnt matter) and a realtek card... nuff said :D been there done that, given up n got XP n a 3com card :D
     
  4. RTT

    RTT #parp

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    nope cant ping

    i know realtek and that can be a bit iffy but cards are installed correctly etc etc

    just a st00pid software problemo
     
  5. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    yup had the same problem - sent them back 4 times in all. "Nothings wrong with them" they kept saying, "but they dont bloody work" i kept replying. In the end i just gave up and now they are sittin in a box under me bed gettin dusty. They probably are decent hardware - just the software and drivers are naff.
     
  6. Fly

    Fly inter arma silent leges

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    TRY enabling NETBEUI and binding that to the NICs.
     
  7. Gandi69

    Gandi69 Like to get busy wit fizzy..

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    Wont bind to NETBEUI either i'm afraid. Wont bind to anything, unless u add another Realtek card (thats not in the PC itself). When you do that it binds to everything properly, but when u reboot, the other card wont work (obviously cos it aint there) and your back to square one. BTW like the av Bindibadgi :D


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  8. RTT

    RTT #parp

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    buggared isnt it?

    fish i reccomend new NICs now....
     
  9. corvette

    corvette What's a Dremel?

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    clear the networking settings (i mean all the cards and protocols)
    then reinstall em all make sure that tc/ip is binded with all the cards

    now if ur not gonna do ne lan partys or nefing i would git rid of the hud and use a xover cable AND WHAT THE HELL DO PPL HAVE AGAINST THE REALTEK 8139 CARDS ALL MY COMPS ARE NETWORKED WITH THEM AND NOTHING IS RONG AND THEY ARE RUNNIN ABOVE 10/100MBITS SO GIVE UP ON IT

    now to get back to the point once that is all done u can then install ics ( internet connection sharing ) i dunno if it works on just win 98 ive got it on se ne way it should all work then if not do a clean format and reinstall
     
  10. R121

    R121 What's a Dremel?

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    Pc 1 hasent got any network protcols enabled try to ping 127.0.0.1 on pc 1 this is the internal loop back test to see if you have any network protocols installed and to see if network card is installed properly. if it fails then reinstall the network card

    install and bind tcp/ip on both cards

    oh yeh RTT if you installed a firewall on PC 1 it will hide your PC. Disable it but it should let you ping PC1 ! let us know how you get on.
     
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  11. Lazy

    Lazy Meow?

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    I have one of the Realtek cards and to be honest they are pretty rubbish. Ihave a problem though with my other pc witch has a Realtek 8139 in it and running xp. When you enable the card after a you get the xp version of the blue screen of death.
     
  12. rK@NE

    rK@NE Rover's gonna get it...

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    /me looks nervously at a pair of 8139s he just paid a fiver for...
     
  13. brianpodskalny

    brianpodskalny ladies night!

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    yeah, in my experience its usually the net cards that will screw you up. its not that sometimes they dont work, but if they are on a network they send out bad packets and its messes the whole thing. took me like 6 monts of resetting my router every half hour to figure it out.

    so the lesson is - buy good network cards once or buy a crappy one, try to return it but give up so you end up buying a good one anyway.

    discount rack = bad

    unless youre at kmart they are clueless lol
     
  14. BannedMojo

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    I've always used 3Com cards - reliable and well known.
     
  15. moose

    moose What's a Dremel?

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    NIC's using a realtek chipset have historically had no end of problems with windows 98 machines.

    I remember at a lan party once, somehow or another a friend running a TFC/CS server from his machine (complete with realtek card) managed to make random peoples PC's freeze mid way through game. Very strange.

    I've had problems trying to get computers to network properly using using the cards too - but got there in the end. You just need to be careful what protocols you bind, and which other options you've got turned on.

    As a last ditch, might be worth removing all the instances of protocal etc like corvette suggested, but then adding everything in TCP/IP IPX NETBEUI etc etc - oh, and file and print sharing, that can be vital sometimes. Then see if the damn things work :D You could prolly work your way back from there if it was sucessful.
     
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