right this just has me stumped. i have here (at a mates house) PC1 1x Computer running win98 (NOT SE) w/ Realtek 8139 PC2 1x Computer running win98 (NOT SE) w/ Realtek 8139 2x rj45 cables (both working) 1x 10/100 8 port switch now heres the prob pc2 can see itself over the network, pc1 cant. neither PC can see the other one. all cables work, we have tried a swich and a hub. tcp/ip are not bound to the network cards, coz card is saying that if tcp/ip is present do you want it bound to the NIC and tcp/ip is installed. ip's have been specified, and subnet masks too. what else could be the problem?