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News Ofcom releases Infrastructure Report 2014

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Gareth Halfacree, 9 Dec 2014.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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  2. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Maybe I'm an odd ball, but i don't have much need for speeds above 10Mb/s
     
  3. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Earlier this week, I did four pages of an upcoming 'best Linux distros' feature for Linux User & Developer Magazine. In doing so, I had to download... 13GB of ISO files. (Far less than last year, when I downloaded over 50GB - I was doing all ten pages then.) At 10Mb/s, that would have taken three hours; as it was, it took 22 minutes. Now, I *could* have set them downloading overnight - but if the download fails, I've lost a day. As it was, I could leave 'em in the background while I did something else and if one of 'em fails (as one did - stupid broken SUSE mirrors) give it a kick and restore it in minutes.

    Add into that how handy the 19Mb/s upstream is for off-site backups and I don't reckon I could manage with 10Mb/s.
     
  4. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    I think i suspected i was an odd ball :D
    You have just confirmed it. :waah:
     
  5. lysaer

    lysaer Suck my unit! Kirk lazarus (2008)

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    I don't think I could cope with anything less than my 2 x 152mb Virgin connections.

    Some games now are 20gb+,even on consoles

    Also I have 3 4k screens all streaming 4k porn at the same time and I don't want to see buffering

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    You get used to what you have. I'd love to be able to get just 5Mbit, and would thank my lucky stars for 10Mbit.

    I live in suburbia approximately 4 miles from Nottingham City Centre, amidst a population centre of 1.5 million, and I'm unable to get broadband in excess of 3Mbit. Or in other words, barely shy of what's needed for semi-watchable/reliable streaming :grr:

    The bigger issue is working from home around 2/3 of the time though, where my paltry upload speed of 600k just doesn't cut the mustard in terms of hosting webex sessions.

    It's apparently not just rural broadband that's a problem.

    Next road over in either direction has their choice of FTTC or Cable, of course. Apparently this road has fallen off the face of the earth.
     
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    Looks like I'm one of the 15% then. I'd love to have speeds as high a 10Mb/s - I'm currently sitting somewhere around the 3-4Mb/s mark at the moment with no chance of FTTC as the area is served by overhead cables with no cabinets. Even our local exchange isn't due for FTTC conversion until "late 2015"...:sigh:
     
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    I can "cope with" 10Mbps, but I wouldn't leave my 100Mbps line any day. Besides, I'm already pulling 20-30Mbps over LTE on my iPhone so 10 would be a major regression for me.
     
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    I'm 10miles from the centre of edinburgh, no virgin...
    the best i can have is a 2mb service... (opposed to the 100mb i had on virgin before i moved)
    I'm only 10 miles from the centre of Scotland's capital!
     
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    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    first thing i do if i was looking at moving house can i get virgin or FTTC (or both)
     
  11. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    me 2, the wife couldn't understand why decent fast broadband is important, she was the one complaining when we had a single 8mb connection, and when I was gaming and hosting a teamspeak server she couldn't do stuff on net.

    of course we now have 2x74mb connections :)
     
  12. SexyHyde

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    Where did all that government money go that we gave to BT to get rural broadband up to snuff? Oh thats right BT Sport.
     
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    Currently on the best we can get in a semi-rural part of North Wales, which is about 4Mb (very rarely see downloads of more than ~440KBs). It's best described as "adequate"; more upload would be nice (40KBs is a joke, just being on Skype can tank my ping) and being an avid Steam gamer is becoming a problem (Shadows of Mordor is a 34GB download FFS; it took three nights of leaving my PC on while I slept), but for the most part I make do.

    That said, there's this initiative called Superfast Cymru which is rolling out FTTC across as much of Wales as possible, and I should be looking at a drastic upgrade within the year.
     
  14. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Here ?
     
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    to be fair, we probably woudnt have infinity if bt didn't get the money, a small town with 9000 households, wouldn't ordinarily be seen to be a profitable venture for fibre given its costs to deploy
     
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    The thing is the money from the government was set aside and they used that to secure the BT sport network and contracts. They did it because they class Sky as a rival, but you only have to look at the market which is away from broadcast TV and moving to a la carte internet TV. All my sports mad friends make do without BT sport. I'm a big UFC fan but I use a vpn to get around the blackout. They should have put all that money into getting decent internet out there. I'm glad around 5% of people will have 2Mb in 2016 /s.
     
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    Thats more of a problem with privatising and profits (which was supposed to be the solution) and still giving openreach the monopoly of the network, which led to years of sitting on their hands counting money and not improving their network.

    What can Virgin do now 400Mb on their current network after their LATEST round of upgrades. They only unleash upgrade boosts to stay twice the speed of the competitions absolute theoretical maximum speed. They didn't need government money or have a monopoly of the whole phone system in BT Openreach.
     
  18. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Would you happen to have any articles that they did that, or how much the government gave them versus what they spent ? I only ask because i have read articles that claim the government rural broadband fund ranged from £10 million, all the way up to £530 million, so I'm a bit lost of how much of our money was given to BT.
     
  19. SexyHyde

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    Haven't got anything to hand. I distinctly remember a big kick off and numerous articles in the broadsheets about it, I am sure the Guardian, possibly Independent, had a great piece analyzing it in great detail. I'll have a look later see if I can source it. Murdochs news outlets would have ran a fair few pieces about it as i'm sure it came around the premier league bidding, although I can bring myself to look, plus its unlikely to be impartial. I recall it was around £500million grant with an almost identical start up cost.
     
  20. ccxo

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    http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/rural-broadband/

    Phase 1 is about £530 million superfast from 66% to 90%, split between the 44 projects.

    Phase 2 £250 million superfast to 95% by 2017 with the USC of 2Mbps to be met by the end of 2016. (Only been issued this year)

    With the first 2 phases local authorities/councils have to match fund the goverment funding- some areas have EU funding as well for phase 1.

    Phase 3 is to find solutions for the final 5%, small projects with a limited pot.
     
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