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LOL Oh, I'll just take a zero off this, shall I?

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  1. Unicorn

    Unicorn Uniform November India

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    I'll get straight to the point; an increasing number of businesses I deal with are sending quotations and invoices via email in Microsoft Word (.docx) format. Does anyone else consider it a basic IT skill for office personnel to be capable of producing an uneditable invoice or quotation to send via email? Have these people even heard of Portable Document Format? I find it hilarious. I am actually considering knocking a zero off a recent quote and sending it back to the firm with an order confirmation, just to see what happens.
     
  2. Chairboy

    Chairboy I want something good to die for...

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    :thumb: Do it!
     
  3. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    You know that a PDF file is trivially editable, right? Even when locked down with access restrictions and a viewing password, the DRM is easily bypassed - especially if you can print (thank you, operating systems with a built-in "Print to PDF" option!)

    Okay, so it's a little different to opening read-write in Word as the default action, but still. The real answer is contracts/invoices with cryptographic signatures; edit the file, the signature becomes invalid. I think Adobe's DRM wrapper supports that now, although you could do the same easily with PGP/GPG and a file of any format - even DocX.
     
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  5. B1GBUD

    B1GBUD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Accidentally Funny

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    I only pay invoices that are sealed with a wax stamp
     
  6. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Stone tablets for me. Try editing those.

    Bit of a bugger to send in the mail, though...
     
  7. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    E-documents certainly can stand their ground. How do you think 99% of business is transacted now ? Its a order over email and they do not have signatures on.

    I work for a $20bn company and have to comply with SOX and we transact 100% of our business like this.
     
  8. dancingbear84

    dancingbear84 error 404

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    Wait you pay invoices....
    That's where I have been going wrong.

    Most of the stuff I see is pdf, which I consider to be uneditable enough for general use
     
  9. B1GBUD

    B1GBUD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Accidentally Funny

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    We used to fax purchase orders over to most of our suppliers, we only moved over to PDF/email a couple of years ago..... oh the shame.
     
  10. Shirty

    Shirty W*nker! Super Moderator

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    Me? I'll only pay invoices that are intricately carved into the subdermis of the rep or salesperson who is handling my purchase.
     
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  12. Flibblebot

    Flibblebot Smile with me

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    That's nothing. Until fairly recently, the only legally recognised way for solicitors to communicate electronically was by Telex ;)
     

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