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Only viewing 3.5 out of 4.0GB's!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by DarkCreep, 4 Dec 2007.

  1. DarkCreep

    DarkCreep What's a Dremel?

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    Hello all.. I just got back into computers after hiatus for about a year or two. The mobo on my Socket A rig (running strong as ever) died so I bought a prebuilt PC from work. $300 with a 20" Widescreen LCD.
    Anyways, here are the specs.


    AMD 64 4000+ @2.6GHz
    nVidia 6600GT 512MB PCI-E (I added)
    Generic Motherboard
    Patriot Signature DDR2800MHz 4096MB (I added, 1GB from factory)
    Emprex 20" Widescreen LCD


    Its a Compaq PC. Since I added the 4GB's its only reading 3.5GB's. I thought it was saving .5GB's for the video but I added the video card and nothing. Anyone know how I can make it read 4GB's? If not ill return the ram and get some DDR667 2GB Corsair XMS.

    Here are my other rigs. Top of the line? Nawwwww Gets the job done? Yawwwww
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    Intel Pentium III 933@980MHz w/OEM HS+80MM fan

    nVidia 5500 256MB

    Asus CUSI-FX

    Samsung PC133@140 512MB

    Rosewill 300W

    Compaq 17" CRT

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    AMD Athlon XP 2400+ @2.2GHz w/ Zalman CNPS7000Cu

    ATi X700Pro w/ Zalman VF700Cu

    Abit NF7-S v.2

    Patriot Signature DDR400 1024MB

    Thermaltake 430W

    Samsung Syncmaster 19" 914v LCD

    Anyone selling a Socket A mobo btw? :)




    Thanks, Dami3n
     
  2. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    you have a 32bit OS, yes?
    32bit operating systems have a total address space of 4gb. devices such as video cards and sound cards (and cpu cache) are all memory mapped, so these detract from the total available.

    long story short, you need a 64bit OS to see it all.
     
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  3. Andersen

    Andersen I'm fine. I'M FINE! *banshee howl*

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    Latest from Microsoft? :p
     
  4. Guest-16

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    Either that of your motherboard cannot address all the 8 banks on 4 DIMMs
     
  5. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    oops. fixed. was in rush :worried:
     
  6. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Mmmm biscuits

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    yep thats a 32-bit OS right there!

    considering that he must have a AM2 motherboard due to the DDR2 memory, i bet it can address all 4GB, but the OS cant address it.

    64-bit is the only way for more than 3.5GB
     
  7. badders

    badders Neuken in de Keuken

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    Or you could get a 256Mb Video card, and see 3.75Gb???
     
  8. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    Or run it headless. Cinda defies the point, though...
     
  9. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Mmmm biscuits

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    your talking utter noobness! he has a 6600GT 512mb PCI, so the gfx card isn't grabbing system memory.
     
  10. badders

    badders Neuken in de Keuken

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    n00b? me? not this time...

    No the video card isn't grabbing system memory, but the GPU Memory has addresses assigned, prior to addresses being assigned to the system RAM.
    For instance, I've seen quite a few cases where user has 2 x 512Mb vid cards, and can only see 3.0Gb, and where user has 768MB GT, can only see 3.25Gb.

    It's not exact, but it's close enough to demonstrate the principle.
     
  11. Seth

    Seth What's a Dremel?

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    ^not so noob
     
  12. Dev25

    Dev25 What's a Dremel?

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    Seen this so many times!

    32 Bit - 4GB Limit including RAM, GPU...
     
  13. DarkCreep

    DarkCreep What's a Dremel?

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    So if I go back to onboard (which was using 128Mb I believe), itll read 3.8GB's?

    Yeah, it came with a 32bit OS on a 64bit board haha.
    The RAM is 2x2GB if that helps.

    So in other words, just take the 3.5GB's as it is?
     
  14. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    or install win64 - any variant will do. the driver situation isn't as bad as it used to be.
     
  15. DarkCreep

    DarkCreep What's a Dremel?

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    Heh, maybe in the future I guess. I barely scrunched up enough dollars to get 4GB. I may return it if my finances dont come out as hoped and get 2GB's.
     
  16. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Mmmm biscuits

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    surely the graphics driver re-assigns memory allocations.
     
  17. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    nope, all device memory addresses are memory mapped to a uniform address space. it's so that the CPU can communicate with all devices with memory in exactly the same way - it simplifies and speed things up.

    (i would just stop trying to be right if i were you - it's funny, and i have a masters degree in computing...)
     
  18. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Mmmm biscuits

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    dose this occur when more than 3.25-3.5GB is installed into a machine with a 32-bit OS.

    for instance 4GB plus GFX of 320mb, and the address all go crazy so 3.68GB is shown?
     
  19. Mother-Goose

    Mother-Goose 5 o'clock somewhere

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    I'd say keep the 4gb and upgrade to the 64-bit os in the future rather than sending back 2gb of the stuff your purchased. 3.5gb does easily outperform 2gb, in vista at least :)
     
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    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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