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News PCGA: PC piracy is declining

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 21 Feb 2011.

  1. Glix

    Glix Left Thumb Stick in the mud.

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    We all know it's a load a tosh and PR. :)
    Games get pirated regardless, real piracy occurs in countries where the publishers' don't bother to sell to, but all the customers are punished away with DRM.

    Until they announce that DRM is ineffective and hurts their business model... :D
     
  2. Horizon

    Horizon Dremel Worthy

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    ...could be a large council estate where nobody has any money... in New Hampshire, highly unlikely.

    My original stance affordability of internet this day and age is non-issue. It's not that expensive. The other guy commented saying that it was unavailable on his property. Which was irrelevant to the direction of the conversation.
     
  3. G0UDG

    G0UDG helping others costs nothing

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    I have lost count of how many idiot cheats I banned from our clan server in BF2, we even had one guy battlefield god i think he was called who was admin on a web site called cheaters community a group of individuals dedicted to online cheating and crashing servers that promote fair play in online gaming.

    The biggest problem we had was players using the murdercheats 187ci cheat very difficult for pb to detect,do these people have no sense of fun or challenge for me the fun is the challenge when you use cheats you take that away. If I get owned in a game so what thats the nature of online gaming theres always someone whos gonna be your better,and you can always get revenge and shout avit at them on screen friendly rivelry makes for great games and fun enough said me thinks
     
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  4. G0UDG

    G0UDG helping others costs nothing

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    the sooner software piracy is eradicted the better for consumers as companies will be able to channel the profits made from sales into cheaper products
     
  5. [USRF]Obiwan

    [USRF]Obiwan What's a Dremel?

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    How stupid are they?

    PC Piracy is going down because there are no games to pirate period.
     
  6. Kiytan

    Kiytan Shiny

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    That's probably because they can't sell second-hand PC games. If you look in game/gamestation whatever most of their shelfspace is pre-owned, as that's what makes them the most cash.
     
  7. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    It's interesting that he seems to be associating the legitimate purchase of a game then the use of a no-CD .exe as piracy (third paragraph) as so long as the purchaser keeps the physical disc, it really shouldn't count as such.

    I wonder if he would also consider the creation of a backup (if possible, in the countries which enshrine that right within law) as piracy?
     
  8. Repo

    Repo What's a Dremel?

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    ROFL, you just patch the code that does the call home. This has already been tried for both gaming and non-gaming software and it's a fail.

    And it would be a frigging steal because it had already been banned.

    If there was zero piracy you'd still be ripped off; poossibly even more so.
     
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  9. the_kille4

    the_kille4 Chaos will rule da world.eventually

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    Well the first part of my argument would go to account hacking. I hate it. It is just annoying although I never had it myself. It is also partly to do with the public’s “tech-savvy” level. As there is a bunch in the population who still use 12345 as their password. (even better one would be 123456) because they are lazy. Of course they are other “obvious” passwords that are used by others… remember the Gawker group password leak and one might understand what people actually use…

    Of course one should always think about the less “fortunate” lack of money and/or knowledge. So education on the behalf of the government would help a lot (if they actually care rather than creating laws to screw us).

    LOL on that part...

    That’s a great idea.

    Well, look at Intel at its method of integrating of essentially DRM for movies. If you have some sort of integration at that level for all forms of media it would be very difficult to pirate such media. However, I would always suspect such companies from doing such stuff. Also I would hate such form of “Big Brother” censorship because there will always be major downfall.

    Hey I’m still surviving on ADSL internet... usual download speed (normal shtuff) hovers at 60kbps and steam was about 100~200... would eventually move to fibre optic. I myself dabbled with BitTorrent, however due to the pitiful download speeds (3 days for one movie) I stopped it.

    I have a friend from Myammar and he said that since every single software on sale is essentially pirated so he gets games in Singapore (legally) and brings them back so that it works.

    Another argument that I have is that due to the open rampantness of online cheating... pro players eg) one of my friends, gets accused of cheating of using aimbots when he's obviously not...
     
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  10. REMF

    REMF What's a Dremel?

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    B1GBUD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Accidentally Funny

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    Ok, that or should have been an and maybe.... In fact, I've just been offered a Q6700, Asus Mobo & 8GB of RAM for £85 from a close friend, and I know he doesn't game or overclock so it should be in good nick:clap:
     
  12. Keith_UK

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    I think piracy is going down because a lot of games just arent the same if you can only play single player. Bad Company 2 for example is great single player but even better multiplayer! Ofc Bad Company 2 is an absolute bargain to buy at the moment too :) I have been playing BFBC2 since when it first come out and still found it crazy how so many people got to rank 50 so fast.
     
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    Ironically, GAME's biz model is partly why PC gaming is dying. GAME and other chains rely most on in-store advertising/stocking fees for most of their profit, and without a unified entity behind the PC (like how the PS3 has Sony and the Xbox has MS,) there's nowhere near the same guaranteed amount of profit.

    Then the stockbrokers and bean-counters, who are unsure and afraid of new things like digital distribution and thus chose to ignore it and hope it goes away (because it may mean less money for them!) boldly state that PC gaming isn't doing squat because they're not moving any units from brick and mortar stores. Hell, it was only a year or two ago that digital downloads started getting counted as sales in some statistics.

    And with the market running on sentiment....
     
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    Umm. How about everyone who rushed out and bought Black Ops when it came out?
     
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    As soon as I saw the title of the article, I thought along these lines.
     
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    Pre release ordering because a game's concept looked good but the implementation sucked. See Dungeons for an example, I was gutted, I should have waited till the reviews.
     
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    One point a lot of people missed is companies lose their jurisdiction in the web, otherwise things like Wikileaks wouldn't exists. They have to create retail markets and that's why consoles and stuff like Steam and Gamersgate come in handy (since there's no difference except they are online and less expensive than material stuff). But piracy is still there and it's used as excuse from developers and publishers to focus on the market where they can get money, creating new services for the future (see windows live) and leaving the "on demand" market discretely. Everything online is turning like some kind of social network: youtube, owned by google, makes a profile of people depending from what you click. If you are interested in videogames you'll see a lot of adv about games and you'll think everyone knows about it and here it comes the hype. And after that you "Like" the vid and spread the word. And obviously "mainstream" crap obscures games which don't get much adv or anything at all. Who know both about the crappy consolish Deus Ex 3 and the pc game E.Y.E.?
    Yet games sure cost a lot, and that's where oriental market is successful from a global point of view: free to play games are the less expensive and most popular form of entertainment in China, Korea, India etc.
    Stuff like Houds Online, Hessian, Mabinogi heroes XE, Metro Conflict, Huxley, Battery Artic Winds, Dragon Nest, Gunz2 etc. Luckily for us we have Firefall and Apb: Reloaded. But the great logic behind these games is they are meant to be playable on low cost systems: a notebook is well enough tho it's not really a gaming system like PC's or Razor Switchblade are. Such games are more friendly-user compared to the past and care about free users, because online games must become popular to gain more surveys/adv and eventually actions. Like a social network. Except it's not meant to suck money from people pockets like retail and digital-delivery are. They are also more oriented to appeal pc gamers rather than console ones for obvious reasons. Really, f2p games are a bless from god and no1 knows about them....
     
  18. UrbanSmooth

    UrbanSmooth Surround Gamer

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    What's really happening is that all of the kids are flocking to consoles, leaving the mature ones that can actually buy their own things to the glorious PC gaming world.
     
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