can we have a rolling 'whats better than what' chart kinda like http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=859&model2=722&chart=318 except with /everything/ on it - new ones go on straight away. you said in this thread the 9600GT is 'about as fast as a 1950pro'. Now, anyone going out to buy a new card would simply assume the 9600GT would be faster! An x1950Pro only cost 100 pounds about 6 months ago! A consistently updated chart of cards listed by performance would be really awesome. The model numbers pretty much mean nothing most of the time. well actually i guess they did it already so why bother, but still... we all trust bit more than anyone else, right?!